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On Violence

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The recent attempt to smear American Renaissance by “linking” it to Arizona spree-killer Jared Lee Loughner was rapidly refuted. On closer examination, the sources were bogus, the liars who concocted the claim scuttled for the wainscoting, and Loughner turned out to be a left-wing nutcase.

But the mere fact that the charge was false does not undo all the damage. (One might argue, however, that the damage will at least be mitigated by the free publicity, some of which will draw new readers to American Renaissance.)

Now Harold Covington’s Northwest Front is being smeared with ominous mutterings that he might be linked to the bomb recently found in Spokane Washington along the route of the MLK Day parade.

Of course anybody could have planted that bomb, and there are far more likely suspects than White Nationalists, for example: (1) the same sort of jihadists who planned to blow up Christmas shoppers in Portland, (2) local minorities trying to draw attention and sympathy by manufacturing a fake hate crime directed at them (which is also a real hate crime directed at whites, who are falsely blamed), or (3) the feds themselves, who have a history of false flags and frame-jobs directed at racially conscious whites.

I expect the smears against Covington will eventually be refuted, but the damage will still have been done. (Again, the damage might be mitigated somewhat by the free publicity.)

It’s all very frightening, judging from the repudiations and condemnations of violence issuing from some White Nationalists. These White Nationalists condemn violence, of course, because they are aware of the state’s awesome power to inflict violence on us. They desire to deflect this violence by telling the state: “You’ve got nothing to fear from us. We’re harmless little fuzzballs. We’re chumps who will scrupulously obey the laws concocted and enforced by the people who seek to exterminate us. We don’t think violence will ever be necessary to get our people off the path toward extinction. We think that genocidal anti-white policies are all just a hideous misunderstanding. We’re all men of good will here, our rulers included. We think that the people who put these policies in place will yield power someday if we just get our act together and vote them out. And of course if we ever got power, we would not dream of making them answer for their crimes. We’ll just shake their hands, like the good sports we are, and say ‘Good show old boy. Better luck at the polls next time.’”

Why is violence a bad idea for White Nationalists?

(1) Is violence immoral in itself?

Obviously not. Most people recognize circumstances where violence is legitimate, and self-defense against genocide is the best justification of all. Just look at the state of Israel and Jews around the world. Jews pretty much have a moral blank check for bullying and aggression, all in the name of self-defense. Meanwhile, mere verbal advocacy of white interests is automatically branded hate. Why is that? Because Jews have power, which comes down to violence or a credible threat thereof, and we have none.

People may have some sort of innate moral sense, but the moral sense of the public is not independent of power. The people always pretty much adopt the moral judgments preferred by the people who hold the whip. If the power relations were reversed, people’s moral sensibilities could be changed as well.

(2) Is violence bad because we stand for “the rule of law” against the “barbarism” of power politics?

That is naïve. The people are ruled by law, but the government obviously is not. We are ruled by men, not laws. The men who rule make laws for the rest of us. And the people who rule us now have legislated conditions inimical to the long-term survival of our race.

Law is not independent of power, and power just means violence or the credible threat of violence. Law is merely a product of power. The people who have power make the laws. The people who don’t have power obey them. If White Nationalists gain power, we will make different laws. Until then, we obey their laws because they have more power than we do.

(3) Is violence bad because it will turn people against whoever uses it?

Again, this is naïve. Like I said, people may have some innate moral sense, but most of the moral judgments that come out of their mouths and guide their actions are shaped by the people in power.

People are not innately “anti-violence.” People condemn violence against non-whites because the television and the newspapers tell them to. They do not lose any sleep over that fact that on an average day in America, 100 white women are being raped by black men, because they are kept unaware of that fact, and if they were aware of it, they would keep their mouths shut and not “go there” for fear of being branded racists.

The moral sensibilities of the public are manufactured by people in power, and power reduces to violence or the credible threat of violence. If White Nationalists had power, we could spin the propaganda dial the other way and people’s moral sensibilities would follow.

(4) Is violence a bad idea because it might bring bad publicity?

 

This is just a variation of point (3) above. Jared Taylor has never advocated violence, publicly or privately. I know this, because I have discussed it with him. Yet that did not stop him from being “linked” by liars to Jared Lee Loughner. Harold Covington writes books filled with revolutionary violence. But publicly and privately, he does not advocate violence under present conditions, and those conditions are likely to attain for a very long time to come. Yet that did not stop him from being “linked” by liars to the Spokane backpack bomb.

Do I really need to spell this out? No matter what we do, no matter how nice we are, we are never going to get good publicity from a media and government controlled by our enemies. Again, good publicity is not independent of power, and we all know what power is. The people in power are capable of telling lies about us and making them stick. Yes, the internet has weakened the control of the establishment somewhat. But do you really think, when push comes to shove, that they are going to allow themselves to be “tweeted” off the stage of history?

Whites will only get good publicity when we have the power to control the media. And we all know what power is.

(5) Is violence a bad idea because the state might arrest or kill those who use it?

 

Should we never use violence because we might get hurt? People who think that way are natural slaves. The people who rule us are of course willing to use violence, even if they might get hurt (or, more often, their underlings might get hurt), because that is how people gain and keep power.

If White Nationalists are serious about gaining and keeping power, then the people who rule us naturally conclude that we too are willing to risk using violence. Our rulers are not going to be fooled by putting legalistic disclaimers on White Nationalist websites.

Furthermore, the government arrests and imprisons dissidents who have not advocated or committed violence. Matt Hale will spend the rest of his life in prison, even though he did not advocate or commit violence. (It was a federal agent who did that.) Edgar Steele did not advocate or commit violence, but he will probably die in jail, even though it is increasingly clear that he was framed by federal agents and informants.

Folks, if this is getting too scary for you, you need to bail out now.

The Lesson so Far

We are pacified by pious illusions about limited government, the rule of law, and fair play. We are doped with religion, sex, and TV. But ultimately we are ruled by violence and the threat of violence.

If you believe that the system needs to be replaced or radically overhauled, or if you merely believe that we need to throw the bastards who are running things out, our rulers will try to stop you, because they know that none of these things will happen except over their dead bodies. They believe that your very thoughts and aspirations, even if entertained merely in the privacy of your own skull, bear the seeds of violence against them.

They will begin with soft measures: mockery, shunning, job discrimination, and the like. But if you persist, and if you constitute a credible threat, then they will work their way up to harsher measures. This has always been the case. America was founded by violence, expanded by violence, held together by violence, ruled by violence, and exports its violence all over the globe (it is about the only thing we export nowadays).

Being naïve, or merely pretending to be naïve, about the nature of politics and the people who rule us will not save you. Naïveté will probably just get you in more trouble.

A Credible Repudiation of Violence

Merely verbal disclaimers of violence are silly and pointless. If White Nationalist groups and individuals wish to repudiate violence in a credible way, then they should purge their ranks of mentally ill people, the kind of people who flip out and go on shooting sprees.

White Nationalists, despite our professed elitism, tend to be very, very indulgent of mental illness. Perhaps that is because we know that the establishment paints us all as crazy, so we are loath to make distinctions. But we can and must make distinctions. White Nationalists would be crazy not to get depressed from time to time, given how genuinely depressing our situation is. But no serious movement can afford to depend on people with serious mental illnesses and personality disorders like schizophrenia, manic depression, paranoia, narcissism, etc.

We may feel compassion or affection for such people. They may have talents and money. They may want to do their part for the cause. There is no need to be mean to them. But we can’t afford to depend on them, much less place them in positions of trust and responsibility. In 2010, I learned at great cost the folly of associating with manic depressive types and histrionic narcissists, and I have distanced myself from all such people.

Why violence is a bad idea for White Nationalists.

My friends will no doubt interpret the following as a mere rationalization for the pathological squeamishness of a grown man who still covers his eyes when something violent happens on the screen. But attend to my arguments. I think they are sound.

(1) Violence is futile.

Setting aside all considerations of morality and legality and calculating merely in terms of forces and potential outcomes, violence against the system is completely futile. Yes, free men take risks. But only fools pick fights that they can never win.

As I never tire of reminding you, White Nationalists are a tiny, voiceless, powerless, despised minority. We are poorly funded, poorly organized, and poorly led. Our enemies control the greatest instruments of propaganda and coercion in history. We cannot beat them with violence. In fact, they need us to commit violence. They feed on violence, which is why they manufacture violence to blame on us.

Violence is futile, not merely because the enemy can catch and punish the perpetrators, but even more so because they can control how people perceive and react to it. The enemy has the power to assign the meaning and morality to our acts. We will never be seen as freedom fighters or romantic outlaws or heroic martyrs. We will be seen as kooks, sadists, nihilists, terrorists—and with some justice, unfortunately.

We already have enough martyrs. We do not need any more. And martyrdom accomplishes nothing when the enemy determines its meaning. Yukio Mishima’s death meant something in Japan, where the Samurai tradition is still strong. Here, he would be branded a kook and a loser, and it would stick.

(2) Fortunately, violence is unnecessary.

We can’t beat the system now. But I know with absolute metaphysical certainty that the system is going to break down. Nothing lasts forever, especially a society that violates all the laws of nature. I don’t know when the system will fail, but it will almost certainly be within the lifetimes of most of the people reading this.

Thus White Nationalists need to focus our energy and resources on propaganda and community building. We must become a large, resilient, wealthy, powerful community, a state within a state, the core of the next political system in North America: the White Republic.

But that requires discipline, realism, and long-term thinking, including the discipline not to waste our lives and resources in premature and futile confrontations with the system at full strength.

(3) Power isn’t everything.

Throughout this essay, I have stressed the importance of power. In politics, power is more important than legality, public opinion, or moral sensibilities, because those in power create laws and shape people’s opinions, including their moral opinions. They have power and we don’t. As long as this condition persists, they will be able to do what they like with us.

But power isn’t everything. Truth also matters. There are moral opinions, and there is moral truth. There are the laws of men, and there are the laws of nature. (Although Machiavelli was right to observe that unarmed prophets always fail; only the armed prophets succeed.)

As a Traditionalist, I believe that truth is ultimately the source of power, that truth empowers and lies weaken. A civilization rises when it is in harmony with truth, reality, nature, and the life force. A civilization declines as it strays from them. As Spengler points out, a society, like an individual, gains the greatest external wealth and power once it is over the hill and the life force is dying within it.

We have truth, but no power. They have power, but no truth. But the life force surges in us as it ebbs in them, for they have strayed from nature’s way. Our power will wax as their power wanes. Then a day will come when we can revisit the question of violence. But today, that question is closed.

 

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52 Comments

  1. Wandrin
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 3:02 am | Permalink

    Thumbs up.

  2. Posted January 22, 2011 at 4:18 am | Permalink

    Great article! Like all the best philosophy, this stuff is self-evident. But it needs to be pointed out.

    I put it up on my blog (naturally, with Counter-Currents as “source”):
    http://thoughtsagainsttime.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/on-violence/

    If you object to this, please let me know and I will remove it.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted January 22, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

      I have no objections. I want everything on this site to be widely disseminated. There are only three conditions:

      (1) Articles should be unaltered (I don’t care so much about the images).
      (2) You should link to Counter-Currents.
      (3) You send me a link so I know what is out there.

  3. Evan
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    Agreed.

  4. JJ
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    One of the most obvious points to make in regard to the Arizona shooting is to point out how the left has used this violent episode to further their political interest, thus condoning the very behavior that they are pretending to chastise, that is, violence for political purposes.

  5. Posted January 22, 2011 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    “Just look at the state of Israel and Jews around the world. Jews pretty much have a moral blank check for bullying and aggression, all in the name of self-defense. Meanwhile, mere verbal advocacy of white interests is automatically branded hate. Why is that? Because Jews have power, which comes down to violence or a credible threat thereof, and we have none”

    Of course, that’s why the official Holocaust story, unlike, say, the law of gravity, needs to be legal enforced, including intellectual property rights [no other "holocausts" allowed, no matter how large]. It’s the lump sum that secures the moral line of credit.

    Someone pointed out awhile ago that everyone talks about Israel’s “right to exist” and makes it the touchstone of legitimacy in any debate [lest one be a 'anti-Semite'] yet no one grants this to any other country. Did the USSR have a “right to exist”? What about “Yugoslavia”? In fact, if you think about it, 1. no other country is even granted such a “right”, much less is such a grant required of all “moral actors” and 2. the reason for 1. is that it’s absurd.

  6. Posted January 22, 2011 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    “They do not lose any sleep over that fact that on an average day in America, 100 white women are being raped by black men, because they are kept unaware of that fact, and if they were aware of it, they would keep their mouths shut and not “go there” for fear of being branded racists.”

    On the other hand, they are reminded by the SPLC that “Between 1882 and 1968, there were 4,743 lynchings in the United States, and 3,446 of the victims were black, according to the Archives at Tuskegee Institute. That means nearly 73 percent of those lynched were black.”

    So a little of the White Man’s math shows that in 86 years, you had an average of 40 negroes killed per year. Oh the humanity! Let’s make another movie about it!

  7. White Republican
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    This is a very good article. I think that violence will ultimately be inevitable and necessary. As René Girard observed, political communities are founded upon acts of violence, and the White Republic will be no exception to this rule. There will be no White Republic unless there is a community with the determination and the ability to win sovereignty for itself as a White Republic. There can be no effective political violence without a cultural and social base that supports it. Hence the need for propaganda and community building.

    I regard terrorism as a dead end. But even here, I think it instructive to note that enduring terrorist groups have had some kind of cultural and social base. For example, terrorist groups of the extreme left (e.g. the Red Brigades in Italy, the Red Army Faction in Germany, and the Weather Underground in the United States) were outgrowths of a larger extreme left subculture. The former would have never appeared or endured without the latter.

    I would not be surprised if Witless Wallace responds to this article with his characteristic bad faith, incomprehension, and long lists. Incidentally, I notice that Wallace seems not to have read the books of the authors he denigrates, including those by Michael O’Meara, William L. Pierce, and Harold Covington. To borrow a line from José Ortega y Gasset, Wallace is “like the country priest who triumphantly refutes the Manichean without having troubled to inquire what the Manichean believes.”

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted January 23, 2011 at 12:38 am | Permalink

      Wallace banned me from commenting on his site. I grew tired of him likening Jared Lee Loughner to us “Vanguardists.” So I pointed out the rather obvious fact that the person in the room who most resembled Loughner is Hunter “Diagnosis: Schizophrenia” Wallace.

    • White Republican
      Posted January 24, 2011 at 5:51 am | Permalink

      I was right to predict that Witless Wallace would respond to the article above “with his characteristic bad faith, incomprehension, and long lists.” I don’t think he’ll be able to shut up concerning the horrid “vanguardists” or make his move to the “Hard Right” for some time yet.

      I am confident that Wallace’s stock will decline over time. Unfortunately, it seems more likely to fall gradually than to plummet, though the latter is a definite possibility if Wallace has another breakdown. Wallace cannot restrain himself from making patently ignorant, illogical, and dishonest statements. There is a veritable shoal of red herrings in his articles. He makes all kinds of silly statements in order to score points and win games. His vanity invites contempt rather than respect.

      If one were to read Wallace’s article without reading Johnson’s article, one might think that the latter advocates violence here and now.

      Wallace insinuates that only “nihilists and sociopaths” debate whether violence is intrinsically immoral. This is the fallacy of poisoning the well: if only nihilists and sociopaths debate whether violence is intrinsically immoral, you must be a nihilist or sociopath if you even raise the subject. In reality, debating the morality of violence is unlikely to interest nihilists and sociopaths, for morality is of little interest to moral idiots.

      According to Wallace’s logic, the thinkers who concerned themselves with Just War doctrine must have been nihilists or sociopaths, and probably militarists and imperialists to boot. Just War doctrine is concerned with the right to go to war (jus ad bellum) and right conduct within war (jus in bello). Just War doctrine might be worth addressing from a secular White nationalist perspective. (For an impressive application of Just War doctrine to the United States’ criminal war of aggression against Iraq, I can recommend the two volumes, Neo-Conned! and Neo-Conned! Again.)

      Wallace assumes a fund of civic virtue among White Americans that is largely nonexistent.

      Wallace writes: “The reigning moral consensus on violence has evolved over time as Americans have eliminated practices which they found inconsistent with the basic principles of Christian morality and republican political ideology.” It would be more correct to say that Jewish morality and liberal political ideology has effectively supplanted both Christian morality and republican political political ideology. With regard to Christianity, it is fair to say that Judaeo-Christianity has supplanted what Revilo P. Oliver called Western Christianity, Christianity as rendered compatible with Western civilisation. (One of the largest Lutheran churches in the United States formally condemned Martin Luther for his anti-Semitism.) With regard to republican political ideology, the American republic is dead because republican virtues are dead among the American populace. I believe that Samuel Francis defended this very thesis in one of the articles collected in Revolution from the Middle. I see no reason to reject it.

      Wallace seems to ignore the extent to which most White Americans are conditioned by the mass media. Most of them have outsourced a large part of their thinking to Israel. They spend several hours a day, day after day, week after week, year after year, watching Talmudvision. They might not be entirely uncritical of the mass media, but a mixture of nine parts credulity and one part scepticism is still a recipe for credulity. They may change channels, but they will never change the system.

      I may write about the psychology and politics of the interregnum some time in the future. This subject is relevant to the question: When will violence be on the cards? Antonio Gramsci’s words are apposite: “The crisis consists in that the old order is dying and a new cannot be born. In the interregnum, a variety of morbid symptoms appear.” We are living in a time in which it seems every course of action is frustrated or otherwise condemned to failure. We may expect to see madness of the kind memorably described in Ernst von Salomon’s novel, The Outlaws (London: Jonathan Cape, 1931):

      “Patriotic clubs sprouted like mushrooms. The same mixture of ideas and people was to be found in all of them. Scraps of old ideas and beliefs joined to all the latest catchwords and half truths formed a strange patchwork. From the grey groundwork of theories grew flowers of rhetoric from old and young seeking enlightenment. And the curious medley of the fumes of beer, sun-god-myths and military music was an expression of the confusion of the times. Quotations from Schiller and patriotic songs were mingled with the muttering of spells and the conflicts of race-antagonism. The wildest chimeras were allied with the crudest civilisation. And everyone indulged in dreams: the Rhine was populated with submarines, the English fleet destroyed by death-rays, and the Polish corridor cleaned up by means of peasants armed with scythes.

      “These gatherings were symptomatic. People collected here who felt that they had been betrayed and cheated by fate. The hopeful and the despairing came; all hearts were open, ready to let themselves be sucked into the mysterious whirlpool, from which some day might arise that which we call the new era.”

      We may already see such madness. We are going to see a lot more of it. We must work to impose intellectual and political order among White nationalists so that White nationalism is in form and in step with events.

  8. LawrenceofAppalachia
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    An excellent and well thought out piece, Mr. Johnson.

  9. Anglo Saxon
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Good analysis Greg. An impressive presentation of cogent reasoning. Thumbs up!

  10. Justin Huber
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Excellent piece of writing here.

  11. Posted January 22, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Greg J: “[P]ower isn’t everything. Truth also matters. There are moral opinions, and there is moral truth. There are the laws of men, and there are the laws of nature…

    “As a Traditionalist, I believe that truth is ultimately the source of power, that truth empowers and lies weaken. A civilization rises when it is in harmony with truth, reality, nature, and the life force. A civilization declines as it strays from them. As Spengler points out, a society, like an individual, gains the greatest external wealth and power once it is over the hill and the life force is dying within it.

    “We have truth, but no power. They have power, but no truth. But the life force surges in us as it ebbs in them, for they have strayed from nature. Our power will wax as their power wanes.”

    You sound like Dr. Pierce in your conclusion, Greg. He always emphasized the importance of telling the cold, hard truth to our people, that it conform with Nature and be grounded in reality. One of his best essays on the importance of telling the truth is
    Truth Before Fashion: http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs951c.html

    “[Y]ou know, somebody has to be willing to announce the fact that the emperor is naked. Even if it’s not polite. Even if it hurts a lot of people’s feelings. Even if everyone else is pretending that the emperor’s new suit is the very height of fashion, someone has to come right out and say, “Hey, momma, look! The man has no clothes on!”

    “Not just me. A lot of us have to say that. A lot of us have to bear witness to the plain, unvarnished truth. It’s important. Much more than the state of our economy and the quality of our schools and the crime problem depends on it. In the long run, everything depends on our preferring what is true to what is fashionable — preferring it enough to speak out for it.

    “I don’t expect everyone to do that. I know that most people will continue being the way they always have been. But it doesn’t take everyone in order to make a difference. It only takes a few. It only took one small boy to open everyone’s eyes to the emperor’s foolishness — one small boy to persuade all the townspeople that they really were seeing what they thought they were seeing.

    “So I’m counting on those of you who occasionally wear mismatched socks. I’m counting on you to say, “By god, I am right. The government and the media are wrong. And the right thing for me to do is to speak up now, regardless of whose feelings I hurt.” You do that — you keep looking at the world with open eyes and not being afraid to come to your own conclusions about what’s good and what’s bad — and you tell people about what you see.

    “You tell them, and many of them will open their eyes and look too. Don’t let the controlled media intimidate you. Don’t let the government push you around. We’re the ones who are right, not them.

    “You stand with me, and be honest with me, and speak out with me, and together we’ll begin pushing back some of the evil which has been taking over our world. We’ll begin building a better world together.

    “I’m counting on you.”

    Greg J: “Harold Covington’s Northwest Front is being smeared with ominous mutterings that he might be linked to the bomb recently found in Spokane Washington along the route of the MLK Day parade…Harold Covington writes books filled with revolutionary violence. But publicly and privately, he does not advocate violence under present conditions, and those conditions are likely to attain for a very long time to come. Yet that did not stop him from being “linked” by liars to the Spokane backpack bomb.”

    Mr. Covington has neither power nor truth going for him, Greg, and will never have either. He relishes that MSNBC lesbian Jewess Rachel Maddow tweetered the link to his Website to her 1,729,395 followers, in a sensationalistic attempt to link some backpack bomb to WNs. HAC proudly referred to Maddow’s mention of him as his “first breakthrough among the Big Libs.”

    Defendant Covington has in fact advocated violence “with extreme prejudice” against my person in his scribblings. You’ve probably forgotten, but I pointed this out about 10 months ago here in a thread to which you and other C-C writers contributed:
    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/03/08/re-covington-an-apology/comment-page-1/#comments

    The kind of honesty Dr. Pierce emphasized is not situational, but straightforward and absolute. Unlike Covington, Dr. Pierce never deliberately lied to his people.

    I can only hope Messrs. Covington and “Hunter Wallace” show up in Charlotte on 2/4 so we can all discuss together the fine art of telling the truth.

  12. Fourmyle of Ceres
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Most thoughtful, very well-written – worthy of the best work of Pierce and Strom, and remarkably relevant to our circumstances.

    Counter-Currents is, first and foremost, a metapolitical project, a project that transcends the false duality placed before us in the name of “politics” by those who control both political parties, as tools of their Power Party.

    Several people have been addressing the issue of the metapolitical project, and I think this discussion ties into several of them who are here, and one who isn’t here, yet – that I am aware of.

    “Hugh,” on VNN/F, notes that we must be in the System, but not of it, learning how the political system before us works, if only to use that knowledge as a foundation for creating our own system, when and where we – and our posterity – choose to do so.

    All others have a common theme that is, perhaps, peripheral, but ties in with your analysis of the effective use of force, and the ends of the metapolitical project.

    Read what Pierce wrote in “Our Cause,” listen to the recordings of Kevin Alfred Strom, the writings of Harold Covington, and look at the reviews of Faye’s Archeofuturism.

    Common theme, from the perspective of the metapolitical project?

    Science fiction.

    All read extensively, and several wrote, notably Faye (!).

    Why?

    Science fiction offers an Open Language for saying what may not be expressed among the nascent aristocracy of the metapolitical project.

    To paraphrase Covington, the world opened to us by the tool of science fiction was not formed as a reaction to what we were running away from; it was the conscious creation of better amd greater possibilities for our race, that we were running towards, as fast as we could – at the speed of thought.

    Contrast this with the advocates of violence against the most powerful military and intelligence network the world has seen, and ask yourself who is dealing with the world in a mature manner, trying to lay the foundations for a better world.

    The answer is obvious.

    Is there any doubt that, if he were here today, Evola would be using graphic novels as a tool for communication? Yes, it would be a long series of graphic novels, but they would change the readers, and the society before them.

    Think not?

    Look at Heinlein’s Starship Troopers, and ask yourself how many young men were inspired to join the Marines, as adolescents, while maintaining a distant watch for issues of “History and Moral Philosophy?” From the perspective of the metapolitical project, how many middle school and high school teachers and counselors patterned themselves, at least in part, on Lt. Col. DuBois?

    One book did all of that.

    Remember, in the case of the metapolitical project, look at the works of Covington, Pierce, Strom, Faye, and even Calverhall – all of our future histories – began, repeat, began with a moral philosophy, the dynamic backdrop for the stories.

    In time, hopefully, “A Distant Thunder” – which ends with communications from our university on our Mars Colony – might well do the same.

    Ironically, in both books, the authors beliefs on the use of force are reflected in Mr. Johnson’s piece above. Perhaps all have been studying the same history, and reading the same moral philosophers.

    Good.

    It’s a start.

    We can learn from that.

  13. Eric Paulson
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Greg,

    Excellent essay that shows insight and an understanding of our present situation that OD can’t match.

    You mentioned the need for propaganda (propagating ideas). Very true, but its a bit discouraging to reread articles written a generation ago in INSTAURATION saying we need to educate our people before anything else can be done.

    Well, we have more and better writers in our cause today than perhaps ever before. The internet has helped so maybe we’ve made a little progress here.

    You mentioned the need for community. Yes, this is the next stage Whether you call it an ingathering, PLE, or a northwest migration we need to begin collecting ourselves. It will not be easy. Many on the right are not people persons. Somehow that is going to have to change.

    One valid point that “Wallace” makes: WNs need to be more involved in real-world politics on the state and local level. In towns and cities of 50,000 or less even a handful of intelligent and dedicated people can impact their community.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted January 23, 2011 at 12:17 am | Permalink

      Thanks for your kind words.

      As I see it, metapolitics involves propaganda in the broadest sense, which includes the creation of art and literature, as well as community building.

      To some extent, community building can bleed over into local politics. But I am very skeptical about any form of political involvement at this stage, for the simple reason that there are so few of us, so it strikes me that we should spend our time and money on things of greater consequence than rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

      For instance, if you live in a city of 50,000 people, it might take several years of looking, but you might be able to find 50 white nationalists within a 30 minute drive. Now it strikes me that it would be a much better use of one’s time and effort to, in effect, build a WN “church” with weekly Sunday gatherings and other activities to promote morale, self-improvement, education, and community spirit.

      Now I think that building such a community would be a much better use of one’s time and talents and resources than simply deciding to run for office.

      Of course, if that community starts growing to 100 or 200 people, then it might be possible to get involved with local politics in areas that matter to the community. But I think such political involvement should be an organic outgrowth of an existing WN community.

      Could a White Nationalist as a White Nationalist really get anywhere in state or local politics? Sure, there is David Duke. But can you name four more? And Duke ran as a Republican.

      Frankly, the only way I can envision WNs having political success is by pretending to be mainstream politicians. But that really amounts to self-censorship and self-co-option. Unless you imagine that you can worm one’s way into a position of power, then pull off the mask. But surely the voters would feel deceived and show you the door.

      Only White Nationalists can be White Nationalists. Let the Republicans take care of their own. They would be more credible anyway.

      There is, however, one caveat here: if a WN is a genuine political animal, if he has politics in the blood, then who am I to say that he should not follow his bliss? We will need people with real political experience and connections. Yes, there might be better things to do with his time and efforts in the abstract, but it is more important that people do what they are good at.

      • TJ McAllister
        Posted January 23, 2011 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

        We, the legitimate American patriots (those who want to restore a sane European America) should acquire the skills necessary for gettting a local administrative position, become Sheriff (or a reserve Deputy), School board and city council positions, or some other lower-level position that could be gotten with credentials that are acceptable to us. I think those who can should do that and I think we should be discreet and civil becasue the main objective would be to build a political resume and get useful experience and contacts. That alone is activism enough. Taking part in the local governments that manage the cities and towns in which you, your family and your friends live is not selling out.

        ‘The only way to start a revolution in this technological era is from inside the gates.’

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted January 24, 2011 at 12:36 am | Permalink

          See my reply to Eric Paulsen’s comment.

          I really think that the time and energy spent pursuing petty elected offices would be much better spent building local racially conscious white community organizations. Just a thought.

  14. Roy Rhinestone
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Attacking the anti-White system with violence is attacking them at their strongest point. They have more military power than any people in history. They want you to attack them. They’ll use the same tactics as they use with the Palestinians. They keep poking you until you use violence and then use the media to frame it with an anti-White frame.

    The Palestinians get pushed around and humiliated and then someone who feels hopeless goes and blows something up. The media then frames the attack in a way that makes the Palestinians look like crazed Muslims.

    They can do this same thing to pro-Whites as well. They aggravate with anti-White discourse and with forced diversity and sit back and wait. They then use media power to frame the violent act as being “racist” even if it wasn’t. It’s all marketing, advertising, and control of the narrative.

    It’s important to remember the 1990′s.

    After Ruby Ridge and Waco, the non-mainstream rightwing grew. After Oklahoma city, the non-mainstream rightwing dropped in numbers.

    Timothy McVeigh committed the LEAST revolutionary act in history. He did nothing to advance the “patriot movement.”

    The best way to attack the anti-White system is with ideas. You just have to have better ideas than the anti-Whites and just stay on a consistent message. Take your consistent message and add some inspiring aesthetics. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

    Pro-Whites need to be like the Indians in the Gandhi movie. Let the anti-Whites use violence against you. Pro-Whites will just stay on a consistent message and produce inspirational aesthetics.

    Any violence committed in the name of pro-White is actually an attack against White children.

    Pro-Whites need paintbrushes, not assault rifles.

  15. Fourmyle of Ceres
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Roy Rhineston has hit on two remarkably useful ideas.

    One, Roy wrote:

    The Palestinians get pushed around and humiliated and then someone who feels hopeless goes and blows something up.

    Note the pattern Roy described, and how we choose to allow it to affect us.

    It is that learned feeling of learned helplessness that is continually drilled into us by the mediacorps. The feeling of helplessness leads the suggestible among us to accept the suggestions as to what we could, and should, “feel” about this, and then “do” about this.

    A critical observation – feelings drive actions.

    The double-bind too many of our people ese themselves as placed in leads to exaggerated feelings of helplessness, until their anger turns inward – alcohol, drugs, the drugs ofcolor television, pay per view events, and X-Box “games” – or outward, immature and ineffective acts of violence, including suicide.

    The learned helplessness can be overcome by activity – purposeful, directed, physical activity, perferably placed in the greatest framework we choose to create, the metapolitical project. The starting place is yourself, leading bypositive example, extending to your family, friends, and beyond.

    Once you “feel hopeless,” you are encouraged to see yourself as a victim, and, in time, a victim of vast, impersonal, transnational forces.

    That rationalization rewards the feelings of helplessness, the belief that you are weak, foolish, and incapable of doing better – the foundation of being better, of being, well, Aryan in focus, in purpose.

    Those feelings can be defeated – they only have the power you choose to give them – by purposeful, directed, physical activity. All else will follow from that empowering foundation.

    Two, Roy wrote:

    The best way to attack the anti-White system is with ideas. You just have to have better ideas than the anti-Whites and just stay on a consistent message. Take your consistent message and add some inspiring aesthetics. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

    This is so singular importance, particularly in the framework of the metapolitical project.

    “…inspiring aesthetics” was one of the tools used so successfully by the flowering of Western civilization in the cultural response of the NSDAP to the induced depression they faced. Breker’s sculpture, for example, called forward further inspiration from the citizenry who extended his ideas to the fulfillment of cultural ideals, which in turn led to further cultural inspiration, and the further creative development of the aesthetic impulse.

    The contrast between “aesthetics,” as described by Mr. Strom in several of his works, and the anaesthetic cultural messages that lower our souls to the material, at the expense of the spiritual, is worthy of further comment as part of the metapolitical project.

    A consistently better message, delivered consistently, will do more for us, and our posterity, than the tools of those who seek themselves as being weak, and purposefully powerless.

    Consider, on a basic level, the effectiveness of the cultural messages delivered in” the movie, The Dark Knight,” which was derived from a graphic novel.

    And what is a graphic novel?

    Words and pictures, written and made vivid with very effective paintbrushes.

    We can learn from that.

  16. Andrew Hamilton
    Posted January 22, 2011 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Jesus. I have to say that is about the best summation of that topic that it would be possible to make.

    I agree with the reader who said that it ranks right up there with anything William Pierce ever wrote–and he was a master at combining brilliant analysis and clarity of expression.

    “They believe that your very thoughts and aspirations, even if entertained merely in the privacy of your own skull, bear the seeds of violence against them.”

    That is what they think, absolutely. Or pretend to. And they rule accordingly.

    Gangsters. Thugs. Bloody-handed and bloody-minded criminals.

  17. Fourmyle of Ceres
    Posted January 23, 2011 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Violence versus Effectiveness.

    “It is not by accident” that the public eye sees us as what they were told to see us as by the television, and the System press, “the wireless, and the cinema.”

    Thus, the pcitures they see are of us in parody; morbidly obese losers wearing ill-fitting quasi-uniforms, all of what have a common color theme (within very wide limits), and a singular message – incompetence.

    These are the ones you see threating force, or the use of force, against a system that tolerates them as useful outlets, and nothing more. Those who might remotely be able to be effective in the adult world are quickly isolated, and removed, either by the incompetent, or the System.

    We are continually offered violence as the tool that solves everything, all of the time, by those who want us to everything but succeed.

    In fact, the Deep War we are in starts with the Mind – your tool of perceiving your self, and the reality surrounding you.

    Greg hit on the seminal issue – they are afraid of our thoughts, they are in fear of us having free will, and an Adult perspective on the cultural situation before us.

    Orwell summed it best – the learned helplessness leads to irrational displays of power, in the short run, leading ultimately to a man who look at 2 + 2 = in a state of learned helplessness, because the answer is “whatever The Party says.”

    It is this learned – deliberately implanted – sense of helplessness that leads to demorialization, and the advocacy of the threat or use of force to reclaim, if only for a moment, a sense of effectiveness, a sense that I matter.

    We must recognize that such “violence” that we commit must be done to the illusions that limit us. We must take the red pill, and see the Matrix for what it is, and how it operates on us.

    We have our hands quite full doing that for the moment.

    Notice, by the way, that the media never mentions Evola, and never shows us as the possessors of an aristocratic mindset. Chtulu cartoons? Yes. Read Lovecraft? No. Read Evola? Never. Masculine Christianity? Never. Effective, dynamic patriarchal leadership? Only in old movies, shown an late-night cable tv.

    Peter Schaenk made the most intelligent summary of how we got here I have ever heard, when he said “The Jews took power over the couse of the Twentieth Century, and they did so without firng a shot, through control of the words you hear, the pictures you see, the financial and political systems. I repeat, without firing a shot.”

    The larger issue for us is that freedom, given our situation, seems too overwhelming to deal with. This is because we have never had a metapolitical framework in which to place all of our thoughts, and all of our actions.

    Peter Schaenk asked this question: “Suppose we were rid of all of our enemies. Then what would you do? Why aren’t you doing that now? Nothing is stopping you.”

    “Nothing,” of course, is how much the internalized values of worthlessness, helplessness, defeat and despair weigh in our minds, where, as parasitic forces, they mislead us, and drain us of the energies we ned to start of of their grip.

    That we aren’t doing this says more about us than we might feel comfortable with.

    And so, the inept talk of aimless, ineffective violence, against people who will only use it insure their plans against us succeed all the more quickly.

    Greg said “we have truth, but no power.”

    A new aesthetic sensibility, in contrast to the anaesthetic assault we face, might be an excellent place to start to manifest that truth, and lay the foundation for the wise use of power.

    It works for our enemies.

    We can learn from this.

    • Joseph Walsh
      Posted January 23, 2011 at 11:39 am | Permalink

      @Peter Schaenk made the most intelligent summary of how we got here I have ever heard, when he said “The Jews took power over the couse of the Twentieth Century, and they did so without firng a shot, through control of the words you hear, the pictures you see, the financial and political systems. I repeat, without firing a shot.”

      The Jews did not take power without firing a shot as the systematic murder of Germans TWICE during the first half of the 20th Century clearly attests to. The Communist Revolution in the Russian Empire, and later throughout Eastern Europe, involved the use of force. Post-1950 they have been using the threat of guns ever since (the massive offensive against The Order being a prime example). Their message is always the same “try to have a country of your own and we will whip the goyim into a murderous frenzy against you”.

      It is White Man’s fault the jews took power. In every area of life (spiritual, academic, political, economical) he took the easy way out. He put his short-term individual self before his long-term racial advancement. He aimed to have the ‘safest’ interpretation of Germany’s greatest philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche. He panicked at the sight of Adolf Hitler, at the thought of his comfy judeo-protestant capitalist existence giving way to a harsh Ario-Germanic pagan life.
      The elite of Europe they stayed true to White Man’s original pagan identity were hated by the majority. Because the majority of Aryan men rebelled against their elite, chose the easy way out, the jew was able to triumph. Secretly, I feel most white folk want to avoid the Overman and return to the ape. Certainly the clinging to jewish belief systems and worship of Negro music seems to suggest this.

      In the long-term violence wil be unavoidable. In the short-term it is avoidable and folly to use it.

      • Fourmyle of Ceres
        Posted January 23, 2011 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

        in reply to Joseph Walsh:

        Thank you for your astute, well-informed critique of my comments.

        I have often wondered if the Jews went after the NSDAP Germanic Cultural Moment with such totally willful destruction becaue they saw a new, uncontrolllable form of Western Civilization was arising from the financial depression – which had created an unemployment rate of more than fifty percent, and led to starvation among all to many of the victims of the Versailles Agression.

        It took the combined force of more than one hundred nations to stop that particular flourising of Western Civilization.

        You made a telling observation:

        Their message is always the same “try to have a country of your own and we will whip the goyim into a murderous frenzy against you”.

        That has always been their fear, the idea that the batteries will leave The Matrix, that the Creative Race will manifest new, creative solutions for their posterity, and the parasites will be left to quarrel over an imploding anthill.

        So many of our nominal brether are all too easily “whipped into a murderous frenzy against (us).” Look at how many of our women watch Oprah with bated breath, buy her magazine, and follow without question the advice of her friends.

        This is why the metapolitical project is inherently elitist; it must be.

        That brings us to your most disconcerting, but essentially sound, insight.

        Secretly, I feel most white folk want to avoid the Overman and return to the ape.

        Not so secretly, I am painfully forced to agree with you.

        Most people wish to avoid any sort of responsibility, much less a duty that transcends generations in focus. If any project is worthy of an intergenerational focus, the idea that our posterity can be the living foundation of the Overman would be perfect.

        Yet, your reference to choosing the ape over the Overman is all too apt.

        By “ape” I assume you mean regressing to some essentially passive, neo-Rousseauian state of nature, infancy with electricity and the Internet. I see all too much of this in the unwillingness of our sons and daughters to move forward. Instead, they are choosing to retreat to the safe comfort of their family home, where they huddle in warm comfort in their bedrooms, and play computer games where they are Starship Troopers, with none of the spiritual and emotional growth that leads to DuBois type teachers, and patriarchs, in all realms of life.

        Ergo, the transcendental importance of the metapolitical project, or, to phrase it differently, “Our racial enemies have their metapolitical project; why shouldn’t we have ours?”

        Or do we already have it, and have simply forgotten it is there, waiting for us to accept our duty, and reclaim our heritage, starting with a postive theory of Race?

        Is the Path from the Overman to Pierce’s “Our Cause” – a focus on fulfilling a transcendent purpose – to the writings of Kevin Alfred Strom, to the temporal focus of a Northwest Republic as a bridge between Nietzsche, and an Evolaesque/Traditionalist model of social organization, all “simply” manifesting our duty as defined by Traditionalism, where and when we can?

        Remember, Pierce was so overwhelmed by the response to “Our Cause” – his most transcendent writing – that he was “compelled” to define the foundation of a new, living religion, which the Traditionalists would have found eminently worthwhile?

        Have we always set our sights too low?

        We can learn from this.

        • Joseph Walsh
          Posted January 24, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

          Before I respond, usage of The Matrix as an analogy for our situation, a film produced by a jew in which the area of freedom is called Zion, shows just how far this jewish mind control has gone.

          My reply is, of course we already have a meta-political project for our race.

          Nietzsche’s concept of the Overman is not new. He based it on Greek concepts of the Sonnenmann and the Hero, and ancient Germaic warriors, either mythical like Siegfried, or real like Irmin der Cherusker. We have had the concept of evolution toward Godhood with us since our race’s origins. Rather I feel our race deliberately moved away from our Destiny (either due to fear, blood poisoning, or even laziness) and has been declining since the adoption of jewish Christianity (and from the resulting liberalism, democracy, communism, consumerism ad nauseum).

          The path is not new, and the clash between the Aryan and the jew in WW2 has been occuring for 2,000 years, as the many pagans, scientists, philosophers et al who were hunted down and murdered by the Church, and later by Communism or liberal Democracies, go to prove. Our struggle today is the continuation of an old one. We are the pagans while the establishment is the new Inquisition. Only the war is at an intense and desperate stage now.

          We have always set our sights too low, or rather, avoided the purest, truest ‘interpretation’ of our race. In the early days of WN, I could understand it. Compromise with christianity, the system, capitalism and so forth seemed useful. The point is being reached now where running away into old world judaic religions or American materialism is cowardly. Compromise is now suicide.
          Its time to drag out Alfred Rosenberg’s work on the importance of the Ancestral Laws of Blood, harden our hearts to eugenics and get prepared to return to the White Man as he truly is. If I understand Nature rightly, the white race will only be allowed to survive if it TOPS the Third Reich. If it runs away in fear from that thought, yearning evermore for regression to the ape, then it is goodbye.

          With complete jewish control in all areas of life now (spiritually, academically, culturally, economically) there is nowhere to escape to where compromise can be had and the ‘clash’ avoided. It is now strike for real power to secure long-term survival, or whimper with phony short-term power and money, on our way to extinction.

          • Posted January 24, 2011 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

            @ “If I understand Nature rightly, the white race will only be allowed to survive if it TOPS the Third Reich. If it runs away in fear from that thought, yearning evermore for regression to the ape, then it is goodbye.”

            Which is why I am publishing excerpts of Mein Kampf in my blog.

          • Joseph Walsh
            Posted January 24, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

            Thank very much Chechar that is extremely necessary.

            These are the excerpts I feel are essential, with my views in brackets after them:-

            “All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died of blood poisoning” (an obvious fact that escaped most historians)

            “cross-breeding is the end of diversity in the human species, and thereby the end of the human species itself” (not that that seems to bother current humanity)

            “This planet once moved through space for millions of years without human beings, and it can do so again some day if men forget that they owe their higher existence to the knowledge and RUTHLESS application of Nature’s iron-clad laws.” (The Aryan race was aware of the fact that Natural selection leads to evolution. The ancients created Caste Systems in order to secure their Blood from degradation, from mixing with that of the lower races they often met in the lands they conquered and colonized)

            “No, there is only one holiest human right, and this right is at the same time the holiest obligation, namely: to make sure that the blood is kept pure and, by preserving the best humanity, to create the possibility of a nobler development of these beings” (The Overman can only arise if of pure blood, a biological reality, his spiritual essence residing in the blood i.e. the genetics/DNA)

            “The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness.” (this has happened all too many times)

            “No more than Nature desires the mating of weaker with stronger individuals, even less does she desire the blending of a higher with a lower race, since, if she did, her whole work of higher breeding, over perhaps hundreds of thousands of years, might be ruined with one blow.”

            The fact that Hitler has been seen as too extreme by many in the WN movement, despite the fact that the WN movement owes its existence to him, has been extremely disconcerting. In the past I could understand the need to go about things carefully, but the time is or has arrived where it has become ‘struggle for real power (spiritually, physically, economically and so forth) or die’. There is now no escape. Those who prefer the regression back to the ape rather than progression toward the Overman, can simply remain in the multicult with the jewish bible, race-mixing, television, big business and thumping negro club music, and we can watch their ever quickening devolution back to the ape.

            On that note, one last quote from Adolf:-

            “Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live”

          • Fourmyle of Ceres
            Posted January 24, 2011 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

            in reply to Joseph Walsh:

            Thank you again for your clear thinking, and excellent contributions to this discussion.

            I can’t argue with your critique of using The Matrix; I can only note that, for whatever reason, the race that was responsible for the philosophy it embodied did not make the movie, or any movie like it. Of course, the perversion of Zion – and other perversions – are there to taint the message, but our only choice is to separate the wheat from the chaff.

            Let me address your major points.

            Your comments are inbold. (That seems appropriate!)

            My reply is, of course we already have a meta-political project for our race.

            In reply, we had one, and still have one, but we are continually choosing for turn away from this unqiue destiny, at the expense of living mediocre lives trapped in a sensate culture.

            Again, we made the choice. Yes, it was “suggested” to us, and we were “encouraged” to make that choice, but, at the end of the day, the power to choose, and the responsibility to choose rightly are ours. That we have abrogated that responsibility simply means we are not worthy to move forward, to move towards higher – much higher – ground.

            We are the pagans while the establishment is the new Inquisition.

            In reply, this is a singularly useful point. Like the pagans in the Inquisition, we are guilty until being proven innocent, guilty of being who and what we are.

            Indeed, we are the one group – Whites, in general, and White males, in particular – it is legal to discriminate against. Indeed, we are the targets of active measures designed to isolate us organizationally, and destroy all we symbolize to them.

            Yet – yet – we are so anaesthesized that we can not seem to support a pro-Life aesthetic, instead accepting vicarious replacements, such as X-Box games, UFC pay-per-views, and the various football and basketball games.

            Thus, rather than face a quick death at the hands ofthe Inquistion, we face the slow death of neutralization, ineffectivness, and impotence.

            Ironically, even those among us who choose to adopt the words and values of our enemies are barely tolerated, for a season, after which time they will be the first to face the bitter truth.

            Compromise is now suicide.

            In reply, I must agree that the salami slice technique has worked against us beautifully, as we were rational with the irrational.

            Yet, the alternative to compromise is Creation, the willfull Creation of something better, much better, on a daily basis, starting with our selves, starting where we are, where the slightest good deed bears more fruit that the grandest of intentions.

            Its time to drag out Alfred Rosenberg’s work on the importance of the Ancestral Laws of Blood, harden our hearts to eugenics and get prepared to return to the White Man as he truly is.

            In reply, this is an excellent opportunity to sum up Rosemberg’s Laws, and begin to define how to best apply them to our selves, and the situation before us.

            Thank you for the reminder!

            If I understand Nature rightly, the white race will only be allowed to survive if it TOPS the Third Reich. If it runs away in fear from that thought, yearning evermore for regression to the ape, then it is goodbye.

            In reply, this requires us to understand just what the NSDAP Cultural Moment did, and why they really did it. This means transcending the use of their Symbols, and replacing them with a design language using symbolofy more appropriate to our place and time. Note the adoption of the clean, dynamic philosophy of futurism as the core of the NSDAP design language.

            That is part and parcel of the Challenge before us.

            I think, for example, that is what Pierce was trying to do with Cosmotheism. This is one useful example from the realm of religion.

            Your larger issue is the one that calls us out of the cave, and forces us to look to the stars, asking ourselves the only questions that matter:

            One, what must I do?

            Two, what if I fail?

            I know of all too many of our young men – the living foundation of our posterity! – who are hiding in fear, leaving school to return home to the safety of their parents, or even not leaving their parents in the first place – blocking the foundation of true Adult Individuation.

            They are “running in fear,” and God but I fear my posterity living on a dark, lifeless orb, watching us regress to a 1930 style economy for all save a barely hidden plutocracy.

            The good news is, once you adopt the perspective forced on our by Rosenberg’s clear thinking, you have a benchmark against which to measure all of our deeds.

            We can learn from this.

  18. Armor
    Posted January 23, 2011 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    “Yes, the internet has weakened the control of the establishment somewhat. But do you really think, when push comes to shove, that they are going to allow themselves to be “tweeted” off the stage of history?”

    Maybe. How come there is still (limited) free speech in the USA. How come this website is allowed to exist? This is because the anti-white forces are not all powerful.

    “Violence is futile / they can control how people perceive and react to it”

    They can try to control perceptions up to a point, but it doesn’t work well at all. If someone used a bomb to blow off the headquarters of the American Center for the Replacement of White People, I think the media would have a hard time using that to set back the anti-replacement cause.

    “I know with absolute metaphysical certainty that the system is going to break down.”

    I’d rather have a violent revolution now than a slow and painful break down at the end of which the Whites will be a minority.

    • Fourmyle of Ceres
      Posted January 23, 2011 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

      Armor deserves a reply.

      Here it is.

      In the piece above, Greg Johnson succintly addressed the question of violence, and White Nationalists:

      Why violence is a bad idea for White Nationalists.

      (1) Violence is futile.

      (2) Fortunately, violence is unnecessary.

      (3) Power isn’t everything.

      Then a day will come when we can revisit the question of violence. But today, that question is closed.

      If there are any questions – and at this late date, there shouldn’t be – see what Edgar Steele had to say about Matt Hale’s case, and the amount and type of evidence needed to place Hale in a Federal supermax until he dies. It’s on Steele’s website, under the title “Let’s Get Small.”

      As to the question of violence against the greatest, most powerful military and intelligence system the world has ever seen, to quote Greg Johnson, “…that question is closed.”

      And rightly so.

      Indeed, the day might come where we can protect ourselves from the impotent insane who advocate the use of force against the greatest military and intelligence network the world has ever seen – “fly, meet swatter” – by following the excellent advice of Dr. David Duke.

      Dr. David Duke said, “When you are dealing with such people, look at them and say in a loud, firm voice, ‘I don’t know what you are talking about. Leave me alone, or I will go to the police.’ If they persist in their injudicious statements, go to the police.”

      We can learn from this.

  19. Greg Paulson
    Posted January 23, 2011 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Very good article. I agree completely with this article on this topic of violence.

  20. Reginald
    Posted January 23, 2011 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    The people in power are capable of telling lies about us and making them stick.

    It didn’t stick with Jared Taylor.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted January 23, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

      The number of people who followed the story all the way to the truth is probably only a small fraction of those whose minds snapped shut around the announced link between AmRen and Jared Loughner.

      • Reginald
        Posted January 24, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

        Only 34% of Americans polled cited “The spread of extremist viewpoints on the Internet” as being a great deal to blame for the Tucson shooting.

        That’s barely more than the 31% who said “violence in movies, video games and music lyrics” were a great deal to blame.

        http://www.gallup.com/poll/145757/Americans-Link-Gun-Laws-Mental-Health-Mass-Shootings.aspx

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted January 24, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

          Very interesting. Thank you.

          One third of the public believes something patently false. It should be zero percent.

        • Captainchaos
          Posted January 26, 2011 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

          So presumably 34% of Americans would be inclined to believe the proposition that views such as Jared Taylor espouses – and thus Jared Taylor – can be significantly blamed for the Tucson shootings. That is around 105 million people. I’ll give Reggie the benefit of the doubt and assume he’s a “glass half full” kind of guy.

      • Posted January 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

        Greg Johnson: “The number of people who followed the story all the way to the truth is probably only a small fraction of those whose minds snapped shut around the announced link between AmRen and Jared Loughner.”

        Loughner’s history.

        But speaking of AmRen, while the boobs are watching their Stupid Bowl, a better clash could come to a head in Charlotte:
        http://www.scribd.com/doc/47485983/STOP-AMERICAN-RENAISSANCE-MEETING

        It might even give so-called WN “Vanguardists and WN “Mainstreamers” something they can unite on…for a few minutes, anyway.

  21. WNAO
    Posted January 23, 2011 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Finally heard on TV say “When you turn the other cheek, you get the other fist.” I watch enough TV to have heard that, had it been said before. Why just now? Perhaps the minoritization of White Humanity is causing healthy White Christians to reconsider the Sermon on the Mount and not take it as a commandment. WCs are waking up to the threats around them, looking at their church leadership, and finding that in a battle, you don’t want those degenerates on your side, for God’s wrath may justify your enemy’s victory over you. Such is violence in the future.

    For the best WN Christian take on the hideous apostasy of MLK-worship that has ever been written, this is a must read. He holds Kipling in high esteem.

    I don’t know who CWNY is, or how to reach him. If you could recruit him, he’d drive plenty of WCs your way, and all would fit Pierce’s definition of an acceptable WN.

    snip

    And it is indeed a satanic miracle when an individual such as Martin Luther King Jr. commands more respect and reverence on his day than does Jesus Christ on Christmas day. Indeed, Christ is only deemed important, even on Christmas day, because He is viewed as a forerunner of the civil rights “champions” of the 1960’s.

    http://cambriawillnotyield.blogspot.com/2011/01/dark-gods-of-liberaldom.html

  22. Posted January 23, 2011 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Will Williams says:
    January 23, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2011/01/24/on-violence-a-rejoinder/

    On Violence: A Rejoinder
    Posted on January 24, 2011 by “Hunter Wallace”

    “The Vanguard

    “Greg Johnson has some thoughts about violence at Counter-Currents. I have some more thoughts of my own…

    “Is Harold Covington the victim of a vicious smear campaign?

    “No.

    “Harold Covington glorifies violence. He sincerely believes that violence – specifically, an IRA-style terrorist campaign – is a viable means for creating a White ethnostate in the Pacific Northwest…

    “Harold Covington’s fascination with violence has been established beyond any reasonable doubt in his many novels, podcasts, videos and blog posts. In fact, Covington once wrote for a blog called “Tyrannicide” with the subtitle “Thoughts On How To Change History, One Bullet At A Time.”…

    “The charge that Harold Covington supports domestic terrorism in the Pacific Northwest sticks. Any disinterested observer can see that Covington’s violent Northwest Quartet novels could inspire a lone wolf terrorist to bomb a MLK parade…

    “I could easily write a 300,000 word sermon on how the use of violence has been a disaster for White Nationalists which has only served to empower our enemies…”

    This from the person who just a few short months ago gushed over Harold Covington’s “brilliant” podcasts and scribblings. What a windbag! Now, even April “Come Home to the Northwest” Gaede has abandoned Covington and gone “mainstream” with “Hunter”:

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2011/01/19/spokane-bomb/comment-page-3/#comment-172910

    April Gaede says:
    January 23, 2011 at 1:07 am

    This is the first time that I have made a public comment on the ” attack video” above that the Northwest Front group put out. I have complained to HAC about this video from the first time I saw it, as have several other members of the Kalispell PLE group. Our arguement was that we are trying to attract families and businesses to the Pacific Northwest and showing a video of IRA types shooting people is not good PR. Also we all made the point that showing videos of activities that we are NOT capable is stupid, only slightly less stupid than showing the video if we WERE capable of pulling off that sort of ” attack”. Other than being some pissed off old white guy’s wet dream, what POSSIBLE positive effect could it have? I sent this question to him via email as well as facebook with no response. Others in our group also wrote to him, independant of my knowledge and complained to me that he told them to ” read my books”. At that point I removed myself from that facdbook page and patted myself on the back for not having ever agreed to be part of the “Northwest Front” but my own group Pioneer Little Europe. This whole situation upset me, and once again made me realize that the best thing for our group in Kalispell would be to stay seperate from any of the NW Front fantasy. Darn it, I am so tired of idiots who are playing games with our future and living out fantasy scenerios while they remain disconnected from real life and real people.
    While I am just as adament about the idea of NW migration for racially concious Whites, I at the same time agree and take heed to the points that Hunter has made about the need for popular support. Terrorism of the local population and scare tactics are not the answer, community activism, political education and healthy group activities are. And that is what we will continue to do. We live in the real world and we are not distanced from reality here in Kalispell.

    “Hunter Wallace,” Jack Ryan, et al, weigh in behind Miss April, telling her how honored they are that she graced OD with her presence, and how much they love her. What a movement!

    • Posted January 23, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

      @ “Any disinterested observer can see that Covington’s violent Northwest Quartet novels could inspire a lone wolf terrorist to bomb a MLK parade…”

      This is absolutely nonsense. Since Covington pronounced mild criticism of OD a couple of months ago they retaliated viciously with a string of lies and misrepresentations. I am fed up of OD and cannot understand why otherwise intelligent people continue to visit that site. It makes no sense to try to respond there to the misrepresentations because: (1) It is so obvious that they have not read the Northwest Quartet novels. (2) Since they have not read them, OD-ers are fully conscious that they are simply mean and dishonest with their inventions and misrepresentations. And (3) the Butler plan makes it clear that presently only legal migration to the Northwest is a viable strategy, not violence.

      If the four novels and the Butler plan were not enough, in his podcasts Covington has made it all too clear that he is not advocating violence in our time. It is AMAZING to see how OD-ers Lie So Outrageously…!

      Incidentally, there is a parallel discussion about violence going on at TOO where I’ve re-quoted a phrase a: “It’s too late to vote the bastards out, and too early to start shooting them”, which epitomes the content of Dr Johnson’s article above.

      • Greg Johnson
        Posted January 24, 2011 at 10:44 am | Permalink

        I read the “Rejoinder,” and it is one of Witless Wallace’s lamest efforts yet. People keep asking me, “Is he really this stupid?” Truth be told, I keep asking myself the same question.

        I think that WW is not stupid in the low IQ sense. He has an above average IQ when he concentrates. The reason he so often seems stupid is that he does not concentrate, and the root of that is dishonesty and narcissism.

        Time and time again, he makes stupid errors and lame replies where you know that if he concentrated for just a few seconds he could have done a lot better.

        Why does he behave this way? I think that it has a lot to do with his underlying motivations. He is not interested in truth, he is interested in being seen as winning arguments by people on the internet. If he were concerned with truth, he would think a little harder. But because he is merely concerned to have a quick answer to everything, he doesn’t think and so ends up being stupid.

        (The funniest thing WW said recently is “I don’t care what people on the internet think.” All his deliberate attempts at humor fail, of course, which is why I call him Witless, but this is priceless.)

        I think this is also the key to Wallace’s “populism.” Why does this mentally unstable, alienated, basement dwelling troglodyte profess to feel a deep connection to “ordinary people”? Why, because ordinary people are unable to see through him. He is a natural demagogue out of narcissism, a populist by dint mental laziness.

  23. Junghans
    Posted January 23, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    A very well reasoned and well written statement, with a lot of excellent following commentary.

  24. lena
    Posted January 25, 2011 at 1:59 am | Permalink

    The violence Americans have perpetrated on human beings around the world is atrocious. It is a joke to read Americans debating “violence” when the American military has totally poisoned an entire generation of children in Iraq with depleted uranium. What did these families or kids ever do to any American? You know, love and patriotism extends beyond the self. If one is a true patriot and a true lover of nationalism they behold it for all. Americans by the actions of their military have proved themselves to be the most pathetic, most sickening and most despicable people on the planet. They have had no self righteous anger or objection to the violent nature of their government, and too bad — because now you are eating your own.

  25. Mr. Dithers
    Posted January 26, 2011 at 5:04 am | Permalink

    I think it goes without saying that senseless and reckless violence doesn’t advance the cause of white nationalism. But it’s cowardly and craven for ostensibly pro-white websites to publish denunciations of violence while insinuating that one or more “vanguardists” may be responsible for whatever politically motivated violent act has made the recent news based on hearsay evidence and media speculation.

    White nationalists have nothing to apologize for nor need to explain themselves to the general public. According to the FBI’s own statistics, so called “white supremacists” are the least violent of all religous and political groups. Even Christians commit more violence than we do. There are many radical left wing organizations that make the old Aryan Nations look like pacifists. The Weather Underground murdered many innocent people, yet the political left wholly embraces them and a few of its former members enjoy privileged and iconic status (Bill Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn) to this day. White Southerners who resorted to violence in defense of their culture in the 1960’s are still pilloried and prosecuted. There’s obviously a statute of limitations where left wing terrorists are concerned.

    There’s also the Zebra killings of the late 1960’s and early 70’s where whites were targeted for assassination as part of a brutal race war waged by a militant sect of the Nation of Islam. Police estimate that up to 100 white people were killed in California by NOI members or its sympathizers. By contrast, The Order killed all of two people whom one was Jewish loudmouth Alan Berg. The list goes on yet the media continues to focus on and over report the few cases of violence committed by racially conscious whites which paints a very jaded picture for the average white person.

    The anti-racist left condones, and one could argue, even encourages violence against those they deem their enemies while the FBI, the media and our ruling junta do nothing. As such, I refuse to comdemn any of our loose cannons who periodically (but rarely) strike out against anti-white bigots and leftists.

  26. lena
    Posted January 26, 2011 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    White advocates have nothing to apologize for. It is the irreligious and anti spiritual, violent nature of the “mainstream” that has created us, it is what we rebel against. That average White Americans choose to flock around the likes of Glenn Beck who compared BP executives to persecuted Christians-What exactly do “mainstream’ Americans deserve besides ridicule? Who in their right mind would want anything to do with them? Most people are nothing but whores who will do anything for a buck. If you happen to cross paths with somebody of a deeper nature, then lucky you. Our reality is way beyond the prophecy and philosophy of Spengler, and cosmopolitan life. This insane system is not just propped up by a liberal “cosmic” elite by force and fraud – many average, middle class whites that should know better uphold it, worship it. Many Whites do not wish to be bothered or disturbed by the truth or base morality and are soulless. In fact they would rather censor the truth, and stick to mainstream Zionist created talking points, the state and the law, and like their jewish masters they will sacrifice their saviour. They want to dine out, get fat, wave flags all the while preaching about Honour and some other crap.

    Where is the White outrage? Is this it?

  27. Posted January 26, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Lena, you are 100% right to castigate Americans for our overweening, self-righteous satisfaction with ourselves.

    Growing up during the 1950s and ’60s I was sure that Americans were the “good guys,” and the smartest, most advanced people on Earth. But by the time NBC News anchorman Tom Brokaw came out boasting of our parents, The Greatest Generation — the ones who “liberated” the German people from the evil Mr. Hitler; the generation to whom “Americans and the world owed so much” — I was already well on the other side of the fence, believing that perhaps Americans are the stupidest, most gullible people on the planet, or at least the most manipulated by Jewish mass propaganda and Jew-spawned Christianity.

    If the reader hasn’t arrived at a similar conclusion himself by now, all he need do is get hold of a copy of HELLSTORM, reviewed here: http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/01/thomas-goodrichs-hellstorm/ My copy (ordered through C-C) arrived from Amazon.com a couple of weeks ago and, though I already have many of the titles referenced by author Thomas Goodrich, the accounts of merciless, even sadistic Allied treatment of German POWs and refugees after WWII (not to mention repatriation of anti-communist General Andrei Vlasov’s one-million man army to Stalin and certain death under Operation Keelhaul) gets my bile rising and my gut churning with hatred for The Roosevelt regime, particularly Dwight David Eisenhower who was personally responsible for deliberately starving to death nearly a million German POW deaths AFTER the war.

    Growing up, every May 8th, my birthday, I was always reminded that this was also VE Day, celebrating “our” victory in Europe. From_ HELLSTORM_, p. 279 (sparing the reader gory details):

    “For Germany, May 8, 1945, became known as ‘The Zero Hour’ — the end of a nightmare and the beginning of a dark, uncertain future. Most assumed, no doubt, that awful though the coming weeks and months would be, the worst was nevertheless behind them. But these people were wrong. The worst lay ahead. Though the shooting and bombing had indeed stopped, the war against Germany had continued unabated. World War II was history’s most catastrophic and terrifying war, but what what still lay ahead would prove, as Time magazine later phrased it, ‘History’s most terryfying peace’.

    “Although forced to the shadows by public opprobrium, the Morgenthau Plan for Germany was never actually abandoned by Franklin Roosevelt. Indeed, up until his death, the American president had secretly favored the ‘Carthaginian’ approach to the conquered Reich. When Roosevelt’s successor, Harry Truman [also born on the 8th of May], met at Potsdam with Stalin and the new British Prime Minister, Clement Attlee, in July 1945, most of the teeth of the Morgenthau’s scheme remained on the table. With the signature of the Big Three, the plan went into effect.

    “‘It is not the intention of the Allies,'” stated the joint declaration, ‘to destroy or enslave the German people.'”

    Uh huh. GD liars!

    _HELLSTORM, The Death of Nazi Germany, 1944-1947_ is an eye-opening tool and recommended for WN reading lists and personal research libraries.

  28. lena
    Posted January 28, 2011 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    Ahhhhh…..You are a Taurus, Will. For some odd reason Bulls just love this Lioness.. It is true. The politicians are criminals. Greg Johnson pointed out in his further reflections on violence that this system is destroying itself. Which is true, but I believe his biggest fear is already happened, it is why I chose a long time ago to seek refuge abroad.

    And I believe I am in a better place. I seem to be coming on to a good year. I promise, if things work out the way I expect them too I will order all the books I want from this site! I really respect what the writers do here.

    • Posted January 28, 2011 at 8:54 am | Permalink

      lena: “Ahhhhh…..You are a Taurus, Will. For some odd reason Bulls just love this Lioness…”

      Yeah, what’s with that? I’m the stiff-necked, stubborn, uncompromising bull, and my wife’s Leonian, too. We’re not supposed to get along, but we do…as long as she keeps me thinking I’m the one in charge.

      It’s good to hear you’re expecting an upturn in 2011, Miss Lena Honeybee. There hasn’t been much of a buzz around your hive lately. Will that change?

      I’m an ex-pat myself, except from the urban world to my little mountain in lily-White Southern Appalachia. We’re good to go around here when things heat up in the cities. If life becomes unbearable in the U.S., we’d most likely relocate to my wife’s homeland, in the Golden Altay region of southern Siberia. The world is shrinking at an accelerating rate for our type, so we must purposefully maintain and defend what remaining pockets of heterogeneous living space we control if we are to protect our precious gene pool.

      As for our “vanguard” using violence during these pre-revolutionary times, that would be folly as our enemies have all the big battalions. Now is the “talking phase,” as Dr. Pierce described it; the time to straighten out our people’s ass-backwards altruism; establish new, beneficial values, or re-establish old ones that worked for us. We’ll get pushed to our limits and then it will be like Kipling’s Wrath of the Awakened Saxon: http://www.europeanamericansunited.org/school1/Fiction/kipling/awakened.htm That is, if it’s not too late. We damned sure better be organized for our interests, and loaded for bear, by then.

      • lena
        Posted January 30, 2011 at 12:31 am | Permalink

        How Funny that my partner shares your Birthday! For real! So what is it really? My partner saw me writing you and was , “ Oh, writing men..blahh blahh “ until he realised it was you, and you shared his Birthday! So it must be a hidden secret that Leo’s and Taurus make great partners! I lived in New Jersey for ten years before I left the US so I have spent time in the lovely Appalachia’s. I was born and raised in Southern California. I have not been able to write much lately, unfortunately, or fortunately because I am busy. In NZ we are the Asian circle, and they are not having anything to do with depression! And I kid you not. Anyway, I do still check my blog and if you want to share e-mail’s just write me there, I will get back to you.

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