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I want to thank Greg Paulson for making this brief video based on a portion of my Radio Free Indiana interview with Matt Parrot. — Greg Johnson, Editor
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Absolutely correct.
I’m always baffled by how many people waste their time with this libertarian garbage. If America becomes an alien nation than does it really matter whether the invaders have ‘sound money’ or not?
Please write that article you mentined soon and maybe another one about libertarianism in general. It is much needed.
The critical point is this:
Libertarianism is an artifically manufctured Jewish philosophy, just like Communism. It is the polar extreme, from our perspective, but it supports Judaism almost as actively as Communism.
Why?
Because it leaves us isolated, alone, and bereft even of Family, the organic foundation of the nation.
The Jews never made that mistake; with them it is Race first, Family second, and the individual third.
All working to one united purpose, on all fronts, by any means necessary.
There’s a lesson in there.
What’s In YOUR Future?
Focus Northwest
Greg Johnson is right. If they are not for a White homeland, they are against a White homeland, and that is all I need to know about them. Ron Paul is not for a White homeland, so he must be rejected by all White Nationalists.
See? this is why white nationalism will never get off the ground. I suppose you think Obongo is better than Paul, right?
White Nationalism will never get off the ground until White Nationalists stop wasting their time and money on politicians who do not agree with our philosophy. From my point of view, Obama is better than Ron Paul, because although both are committed to a philosophy that ensures that whites will be displaced by other races, Ron Paul would place the whole process on a sounder economic and political footing, ensuring that the system will survive long enough to destroy us. Obama and the rest of them offer some hope because left in their hands the system will crash, and a crash might just give whites a fighting chance.
On the other hand, the libertarians aren’t likely to stifle free speech, lock people up for their speech, confiscate guns or send in SWAT teams to kick in doors on political dissidents. When and if those things start happening, it might help to have to a few principled libertarians in high places.
Maybe so, as long as they get there without one dime of money that could be spent promoting our message instead.
Exactly! The only thing less helpful to to the WN cause than political Conservatism is Libertarianism!! They are as two sides of the same counterfeit coin!
Are these ideologies better than Liberalism – sure, but anymore that is like suggesting that getting stabbed to death is better than being shot to death, etc.
And it is probably worth noting that Paul hasn’t got a snowball’s chance of being elected anyway – all the more reason NOT to waste a dime on his doomed campaign!
Will some ever learn this lessen?
The “pricnipled” libertarians are the politically ineffective libertarians, and are part of the kabuki you are encouraged to see, and not the actual politics that runs the country.
Example: for all of Paul’s talk of “sound money,” he has never offered to amend the Federal Reserve Act to incorporate the Coinage Act of 1792 – the foundation of all of the “sound money” arguments. In fact, since 1934 gold as currency has been a nullity in America, and Nixon removed it outside America.
Paul offers kabuki, and support for Judaism’s second favorite philosophy for the goyim, libertarianism. That’s it – a nice sideshow, but totally opposed to the Race on all fronts, and totally supportive of the highest bidder on all issues. If you hold the monopoly on creating and controlling money, and you create this money out of thin air, you ARE, and will remain, the highest bidder.
Paul’s quiet on these issues, and so, he is allowed to remain, and perform.
What’s In YOUR Future?
Focus Northwest
ned,
I think the issue of which of the mainstream candidate would be best is a separate issue from whether nationalists should ever donate money to any mainstream candidate, including Ron Paul. Greg has argued in the past that nationalists have so little money that it makes no sense to donate to candidates who don’t share our goals, hate our guts and who are already well funded. Ron Paul spit in the face of his racially conscious donors in 2008. He also changed his position on immigration this year and has adopted the radical position that most libertarians take on this issue (no borders). There is no getting around those things.
That said, I do think the typical analysis of libertarianism one usually finds in WNist circles is pretty seriously flawed. As long as government at all levels but especially the US federal government is controlled by the other side, it helps to have a whole movement within the mainstream dedicated to undermining government power. By this standard, it’s Ron Paul by a mile on the issue of which mainstream candidate is best.
categorically reject the idea that it makes no difference from the standpoint of White interests which mainstream candidate is sitting in the White House or any other office.
Paul is best only on the assumption that this is still our country and we want what it best for it. It is not our country anymore, and candidates who might stabilize the present system without altering its fundamental principles and course are greater threats to the interests of our people than Obama and his ilk. I want their system to be run by the kookiest non-white liberals out there — until it is run into the ground. Because that is the only thing that will give our race a chance of the radical change we need.
Well, I wish I could get a wider opinion from WN’s on this issue. Even on Stormfront, (the quintessential WN forum) I cannot get past the mods to pose a question on this issue in their opposing views forum (which is supposed to ALLOW debate). I do not know where else to turn to solve this issue. I’ve read Dr. Sunic’s writings, Dr. MacDonald’s writings, but still I’m confused….
ned:
“Wider opinions” are nice; the truth is better. Most of the “wide range of opinions” are political kabuki – ill-informed, manufactured distractions designed by brilliant marketing types to keep us in the functional equivalent of a sandbox.
Why would THEY want to do that?
Simple.
The Jew-created “libertarianism” fulfills Judaism in practice – it’s very, very politically ineffective. “Libertarianism” – Jew-created, Jew-approved, great for Jews, and an impotent sideshow for us.
Bloomberg’s Caroline Baum did a great commentary on the religion of gold worship, so-called “sound money” as a political sideshow.
Sound people, sound families, sound culture, sound nation-state – that’s what works.
What’s In YOUR Future?
Focus Northwest
Ned, maybe you should support Neo-Nazi Billy Roper for president, and just not worry about it anymore. He’s running in 2012 and already has a running mate and a campaign website. Then there’s Glenn Miller, but I’m not sure he’s running this time, unless you slip his campaign fund a few bucks.
Really, I cannot see why we fret so much over this issue. We already know the mainstream candidates are no good. And, if we’re honest with ourselves, our own candidates are lousy too.
As for libertarianism, I believe the reason it could not work on a societal scale is more due to the proletarian quality of the citizens themselves than to any inherent flaws in that particular system itself.
Extinction – Is It In YOUR Future?
PS: @ned – Stormfront was never a ‘free speech’ forum, even in its opposing views section.
Ward wrote:
Great points.
It’s not that the “mainstream candidates are no good.” They are salesmen, entertainers and servants of the Elite.
The System was designed to serve a few, invisibly, and allow the rest of us bread, circuses, and enough “freedom” to pay taxes to them, for their use.
THIS is where Rockwell grabbed the bull by the horns, and Covington grabs the bull by the balls.
We are always playing their Game, by their Rules. This makes us the functional equivalent of Charlie Brown, when Lucy pulls the football away, and he lands on his back – fat, stupid, and helpless, again, and again, and again.
They HATE us – and until you can accept that, embrace it, and transform it to your advantage, you will always be looking for the magic slipper, Cinderella – someone else to fix what YOU allowed, YOU actively support.
NO ONE is coming to your aid. Best place to start is to send money – “not tip money, folding money!” – to counter-currents each and every month.
What’s In YOUR Future?
Focus Northwest
Ned,
Can I ask what is your specific question? Most WNists believe there is 65 years of data that shows working within the political mainstream is a complete waste of time for anyone concerned about White racial survival. A few mainstream people like Ron Paul occasionally take positions that are consistent with a handful of peripheral WNist goals. Their objectives, however, are always to preserve the status quo that makes White self-determination impossible.
Lew,
That’s why a successful movement will be underground. Silently and stealthily it will convert men who will then be ready for martyrdom. By its very nature and the system that is against it, it will be deemed wholly illegal and will live up to its proscribed nature by illegal activity. However, before it can turn into a KKK type organization it will have converted millions of Nordic men.
Fat chance of anything like this ever happening!
It’s hardly surprising to find out I was right as regarding Ron Paul. The guy is boring (yawn). All this hype promoted by so many hotheads is just preposterous. The problem with Democracy is Democracy itself. Democracy-for-the-rabble is never/ever going to produce a sound candidate for anything remotely pro-WhiteEuropean. This guy has ignored the race issue from the very start!. It’s frankly sad to witness how many people (letting themselves go by their own expectations and hopes) have overlooked this crucial fact.
I hope Marine Le Pen does not turn out to be another Ron Paul (I also have my foolish expectations also) She apparently has the ‘pedigree’ for something more hopeful… or so it seems.
‘Hoping’ is for free, vain as it is.
I’m not so sure mass democracy for the rabble is the main problem. No one is being given a chance to vote on open borders; otherwise, we wouldn’t have open borders. The main problem is we have the wrong elites running things in our particular oligarchy.
“Ned, maybe you should support Neo-Nazi Billy Roper for president, and just not worry about it anymore. He’s running in 2012 and already has a running mate and a campaign website. Then there’s Glenn Miller, but I’m not sure he’s running this time, unless you slip his campaign fund a few bucks.”
This is… silly. Only a small circle of people know Roper even exists.
And Frazier Glenn Miller is a federal informant, which he has never denied.
We are not going to vote our way out of this mess. Running for office is at best a publicity stunt.
The Scorpion once published an advertisement with the line: “A people does not vote, it fights.”
“Ned, maybe you should support Neo-Nazi Billy Roper for president, and just not worry about it anymore. He’s running in 2012 and already has a running mate and a campaign website. Then there’s Glenn Miller, but I’m not sure he’s running this time, unless you slip his campaign fund a few bucks.”
This is… silly. Only a small circle of people know Roper even exists.And Frazier Glenn Miller is a federal informant, which he has never denied.
Of course it’s silly, Sam. It was intended to be. In other words, it makes no difference whether you vote mainstream or for a swastika-bearing candidate – the end result is that no gain in our favor will be made.
If we are to succeed in at least rocking the political boat, we need better candidates than Mr. William Roper. We need tall, handsome, highly-intelligent, articulate, and humorous WN candidates to handle (with panache) all encounters with the media. Glitz sells. WN lacks glitz. Provide the glitz, and we can get at least some of our message through, though under no circumstances will we win.
Field the right WN candidate – let us call him the “Manchurian Candidate”, and we can damage the political infrastructure, the American voters faith in the Democrat/Republican hegemony over what is “right” and “true”, and many other things as well.
Unfortunately, we have no WN individuals willing to run for President who also possess the necessary abilities. Duke is not a choice. No one with a Neo-Nazi/KKK background has an ice cube’s chance in Hell of going anywhere.
The question is not whether we run better or worse candidates. The real problem is understanding that running for office is a waste of time and resources that could be better spent building our community, honing our message, and creating new ways of getting it to our people.
GJ: “The question is not whether we run better or worse candidates. The real problem is understanding that running for office is a waste of time and resources that could be better spent building our community, honing our message, and creating new ways of getting it to our people.”
Hi Greg: I basically agree with you that running WN candidates are “a waste of time” but I also think that the candidates we have run in the past have also been a waste – period. Bill White has run (I believe) or at least blustered that he would. Jeff Schoep has run. Glenn Miller. Jim Giles. David Duke…some others. All of these people were seriously flawed so is it any wonder that nothing ever came of it?
That said, here’s what else that is lacking:
1 – Building Community: Is this meant as a community on the Internet or in physical reality? If the latter, is the only choice Mr. Covington’s nebulous Northwest idea? Is it a PLE? I ask these things because specific answers to these questions should be posted – or outlined in a fresh article (unless one already is archived).
2 – Honing Our Message: What IS our message, Greg? For instance, is it the message that Jeff Schoep delivers at his outdoor rallies amid fluttering Nazi flags? Is it the message at midnight cross-burnings led by Thom Robb or one of his bretheren? Is it the message of Stormfront? Or VNN, with its call for mass exterminations of The Chosen? Honestly, my head is spinning over this. Now, I have my own ideas as to “honing our message” but boy oh boy the Neo-Nazis sure don’t want to hear them. So…what is our message to be?
3 – Counter-Currents Publishing is certainly creating new ways of getting to our people. I owe you my thanks, once again, for getting “Hold Back This Day” before the reading public. Even so, we need to start making professionally crafted WN documentaries and Direct-to-DVD movies, be they low budget or not. Yet, where is there one single WN who has the money to launch such enterprises? Are we all paupers? So it would seem.
Many questions and few answers.
It’s disheartening to see, speaking only from my point of view, that our tactics have stagnated – at least in the nearly 15 years I’ve been “awakened”. If anything, except for a few successes scattered here and there, WN is and remains a crippled child.
Ward has hit on an important point.
Why not an open thread, “What Is To Be Done? How?”
It’s the issue we keep dancing around – even in this thread- but, like the Northwest Republic thread, would burn out the old underbrush, and allow new saplings to take hold.
Being moderated, the “roll around on the ground and foam at the mouth” types would be removed, and we could begin to address the larger issues.
Two quick points:
One, nobody responded to by post about the Chinese building a new, FIFTY SQUARE MILEs, triple bottom line sustainable city sout of Boise, Idaho. Marsopolis, anyone?
Two, Glenn Beck did his fifty minute intro, available online, for Glenn Beck TV. It’s pretty much along the lines we might be thinking in.
More to follow.
What’s In YOUR Future?
Focus Northwest
Wish I’d seen this before the last ‘money bomb’! You’ve given me food for thought.