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For years, I have argued that our mostly online and anonymous movement is more likely to develop into a large and formidable real world community if we follow two basic rules. First, everyone gets to choose his own level of explicitness and involvement. Second, everybody else has to respect those decisions, including people’s decisions to keep their identities secret.
Doxing refers to publishing private information about an individual — his real name, his home address, his school, his employer, etc. — in order to cause him harm. Doxing is a favored tool used by the Left to expose White Nationalists to persecution from the system and criminal antifa elements.
In recent months, however, doxing has been used by movement people to settle scores with movement rivals. To give two recent examples: Iron March members were trying to dox American Vanguard members, and Twitter’s Baked Alaska recently doxed Twitter’s Bunker Smith (who is a Trumpian civic nationalist, not a White Nationalist). Simply sharing people’s pen names among fellow movement people can cause huge problems. But doxing is far worse, because it makes such private information available to the public at large.
This has to stop. The White Nationalist movement has grown tremendously in the internet age because the web allows our people to conceal our identities from those who would persecute us for our beliefs. But our movement cannot continue growing online, much less transition to real world meetups, without a commitment to protecting people’s identities from doxing. The recent doxings indicate that we need to make this principle more explicit and back it up with punishments for those who violate it.
Doxing fellow movement people strikes at the anonymity and trust that are the foundations of our movement. Therefore, I want to propose the following rules for dealing with doxers.
- Any movement person who doxes another movement person must suffer the social equivalent of a death sentence: they must be completely shunned. They must be expelled from all movement organizations, barred from all movement gatherings, and blocked on all social media.
- Their friends must be forced to choose sides. It is no deterrent if doxers are shunned by strangers. They must be disavowed and shunned by their friends. And if their friends stick with them, they must be shunned in the same way.
- These principles do not apply to the retaliatory doxing of doxers, whether they come from the system or the movement. On the one hand, retaliatory doxing is both just punishment and an excellent deterrent. On the other hand, it could initiate an escalating cycle of retaliation that could be harmful to the movement overall. So, although I cannot condone retaliatory doxing, I understand it, and I cannot treat it as an offense on the same level as initiating doxing.
- One of the virtues of instituting a policy of shunning doxers is to give victims both justice and solidarity and prevent such cycles of retribution.
But what if you personally like a doxer? What if he is presently an ally in the ever-shifting net wars? Simple: you should choose better friends and allies. Sure, so-and-so might only dox the people he is mad at. But what makes you think he will never fall out with you? What makes you think he will never attack your friends, your wife, or your employment?
No cause is more serious or sacred than White Nationalism. So we need to act like it. We think of ourselves as the legitimate leadership of our race. So we need to act like it. We should start thinking of ourselves as a government in exile. So we need to act like it. Today, that means establishing some basic rules and enforcing them with real consequences to the extent possible in our movement.
If you agree with this statement, I invite you to sign your name below. (Just post it in a comment.) If you have criticisms and suggestions, post them below as well.
Greg Johnson
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Problems arise when we consider exactly who is protected by this code. For
example, does it protect a person who is pro-white but hostile to white
nationalism? (This may be an uncommon combination, but I don’t think it’s
far-fetched. Consider a person who thinks whites should organise to secure
their interests, but also does not favour any sort of repatriation or
territorial partition; and further, who thinks that non-white citizens
should have full legal equality and regards the contrary opinion with
repugnance.)
It seems to me that a precise definition of protected persons is important,
because of the following:
If we are not clear who is a protected person, then cases may arise where
some people shun a doxer, and others do not; and then the first group, by
the rule just quoted, will have to shun the second group.
I agree with Greg 100%.
Doubly on this: “We should start thinking of ourselves as a government in exile.”
Our mission is the most noble one in the 3000 year written historical European record- to save our people from demographic collapse, Islamization, and a host of evils unprecedented in history. All actions undertaken by those professing to such a mission should be of quality and seriousness matching its gravity.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. It is up to each person to decide how public they want to be.
Maybe a list of proven doxxers like the sjw list is needed.
I too agree with Greg 100% on this. Insofar as the real threat of doxing is the real (and not imagined) potential harm that can befall the doxee, especially those with families, it hurts our cause enormously. In the end, family trumps everything.
Doxing done by a fellow WN is particularly insidious, and is tantamount to aiding and abetting the steamroller that is Political Correctness. Until the shibboleth of Political Correctness is fully vanquished (or reduced to a marginalized threat), such ‘outings’ (whether carried out by WNs or, which is more likely to be the case, by SPLC-types) are a very real consideration that affects each individual to a greater or lesser degree, given his unique situation.
I second Sartor, who writes: “I have the greatest admiration of those with the courage and/or financial independence to work as explicit White Nationalists. However, at this stage in our movement (in Evola’s sense), this is not a viable option for most.”
Thanks to Greg for bringing this subject up and making it a priority.
While I completely agree with the expressed sentiments activists have to be aware that we not only live in a surveillance society but belong to an ethnic group in which many members have a hankering to “please teacher.” Therefore, spoken and written comments should be tailored for future exposure, border crossings and the occasional police road block – usually at Christmas and new Year! Or just be kind to women, children and animals and you’ll be fine.
The goals of White Nationalism and those of posters on Ironmarch are completely separate, I wouldn’t equate them with your ‘movement’ but no one from Ironmarch doxxed anyone from AV – when is this disinfo going to stop being published?
Signed!
-pilleater
P.S: I hate doxers too. They will try and get me if I say anything bad. Your trust is my trust. I would only share information that has appeared online and direction people of interest to authority figures.
Since I cam out on this side, people have been trying to dox and throw bricks at me to. It was well worth it though 🙂
Agree 100%
Well said and well reasoned.
We can’t survive a long, protracted struggle if traitors are allowed to operate with impunity. I disagree with many people in this movement, but I am grateful for their activism. Live and let live and don’t forget people who violate this rule.
Couldn’t agree more Greg.
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Are we sure that everyone in the movement will be aware of who has doxed
whom?
Perhaps Counter-Currents could maintain a registry of doxers. An additional
advantage of this idea is that it allows people who have been “convicted” of
doxing to appeal.
On the other hand, a registry of this sort might expose Counter-Currents to
the risk of legal action. (I can’t say — I’m not a lawyer.)
If doxing is a crime, the alleged doxers should be exposed with evidence, not just mere allegations.
I’ve heard of the iron march doxing (though I’m not familiar with the exact individuals within iron march who were involved.) Who are these individuals? Their user names should be posted alongside this article, as if in a “wanted” poster. I can’t exactly shun them if I don’t know who to shun.
I’d also like to see Iron March as an institution formally challenged to condemn these individual doxers.
Finally, who is this Bunker Smith? As far as I know, Milo the Jew has threatened Baked Alaska’s mother. How do I know that Baked Alaska has not engaged in retaliatory doxing?
Serious crimes require serious evidence.
All that said, I “Tom” generally support the thesis of the article.
I think the doxed victim will know who did it. With this, counter-doxing could be undertaken.
“Doxing” is a new word for me. It says nearly as much as “denouncing”. That is one of the worst behaviors possible.
I agree with Greg Johnson’s suggestions. People who cause harm in this manner to settle scores or to gain an advantage should be shunned.
I agree. Doxing is a venomous practice. I have the greatest admiration of those with the courage and /or financial independence to work as explicit White Nationalists. However, at this stage in our movement (in Evola’s sense), this is not a viable option for most.
Agreed. With the following caveat – there must be absolute, cast iron proof that the accused actually is guilty of doxing. Wild accusations without proof cast more doubt upon the accuser than the accused; also spreads paranoia – which is what The Enemy wants.
Ditto Greg’s previous article on ‘Punching Right’, positive criticism of ‘others on the right’- fine; negative criticism and wild accusations without proof are a no-no, as they again play into The Enemy’s hands.
Most sensible people already tacitly follow these two guidelines regarding doxing and punching right, but it is helpful to have them articulated. We must accept that White people are incredibly varied and therefore require different methods to bring them into our Cause; so letting ‘a thousand flowers bloom’ is the only way. Senseless infighting over tactics, tastes and strategy, combined with childish nonsense over ego trips guarantee our failure. We’re in the great game now and we can’t afford to fail.
One of my fondest wishes is being able to speak my truth openly. One benefit of being doxxed is that people can speak openly, because there is nothing left to hide. There is significant power in using your own name & voice to speak. But this movement is not quite there yet, so we work anonymously.
Yes, but you do understand that when and how you become an explicit White Nationalist is not for other people to decide.
Ted Sallis: I agree with Greg 100% on this. This would be an excellent first step in “cleaning up” WN.