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Greg Johnson Interviews Matthew Heimbach

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Matthew Heimbach is a Senior at Towson University in Maryland. He is the founder of Towson’s White Student Union, which recently sponsored a speech by Jared Taylor on White Identity.

Topics include:

  • How to form a White Student Union
  • The reaction of the Towson University administration, faculty, and student body to the White Student Union
  • Matt on his racial awakening
  • The reaction of his family to his racial awakening and activism
  • How the broader pro-white movement has helped or hindered the Towson White Student Union
  • How activists can deal with discouragement and burn out
  • How people in college towns can help White Student Unions to form and sustain themselves
  • How you can help the Towson White Student Union


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  1. Posted October 21, 2012 at 2:57 am | Permalink

    “The left might be the loudest, and control the media, but they don’t control the hearts of the people. People may be silenced by political correctness, but when they’re given an opportunity to express what they really think, I’d say that more often than not they’re on our side.”

    Matthew expresses himself well, and the good impression I got of his character and personality from just a few minutes of his Huff Post appearance was strengthened very much by this interview.

    Transcriptions of a very short portion of this interview, along with commentary on the interview and his Huff Post appearance from a Mantra point of view can be found here:

  2. Jared Reilly
    Posted October 16, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    PROOF POSITIVE of a racial double standard here is that nonwhites are allowed to assemble in student unions while whites are prohibited from doing so. We as a race have every right to assemble in such groups to protect/promote/preserve our history, culture, identity and interests. Yet time and again our non-racist and nonviolent displays of white pride and white power are wrongfully labeled as such, with whiteness being condemned as something that’s to be feared, hated and shameful of, as if it’s inherently biased, destructive, etc. This racist stereotyping engenders a negative and self-destructive consciousness in the white community regarding their racial identity as a people that we must continue to be fight against in positive and constructive ways at every turn.

  3. Posted October 9, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    I just wanted to thank everyone for the support and advice. Keep us in your prayers and if you are in the Maryland area please come out to our events and show support! I am grateful for all the support and know that all the members of the WSU will keep standing strong at Towson for the sake of our people. Deo Vindice

    • ovulating right now
      Posted October 10, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

      Just for the powerful effect on campus White Awareness, you should loudly shame the Diversity Coordinating Council members for not volunteering to serve on your WSU Neighborhood Watch Patrol.

      If they are pro Diversity, surely that are anti Diversity violence. Make them prove it. Make it Very Public.

  4. morrison
    Posted October 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    I feel that it was an appallingly disrespectful display in how the Blacks treated Jared Taylor at Towson. But it is also understandable. They sense a shift in momentum and they don’t like it.

    • Junghans
      Posted October 9, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

      This may be a racial turn of events, indeed. One that the Negroes and their mollycoddlers instinctively don’t like. They sense, with their keen negroid racial savvy, that they may not have the White man on the run ‘no mo’.

      Matt is to be commended, and hopefully, White student unions will spread like wildfire.

  5. Outlier
    Posted October 9, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Whites ended black slavery but that point is never celebrated. Blacks just keep guilt tripping whites.

  6. Jaego
    Posted October 8, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    The above poster speaks the Truth, but the devil is in the details. Do we have lawyers in the Movement yet who are willing to work pro-bono?

    My idea: if they refuse to allow the White Student Union or refuse to protect it, refuse to pay the Student Activity fee on your bill – and tell them why. In fact, tell the whole University in front of the Administration Bldg. Have some of your placards say, “No Taxation Without Representation” and invite the media, both local and Fox, Alec Jones, Drudge, etc.

    And Matt, if you get kicked out – know that you have a very bright future somewhere else. And you will greatly admired and loved. What you are doing for us is far more important than any conventional education. Your real life is already well underway.

    • overboard
      Posted October 9, 2012 at 12:05 am | Permalink

      When Matt graduates and is denied a job, he should sue them for anti White hatred and intolerance. He can go after their customers’ Diversity Officers for statements on why folks didn’t come out more forcefully in support of the anti White voices at TU.

      Nobody in the Race Business, Inc., wants their name in the press unless they control the message. Matt now has White Victimhood and the means of controlling the message.

      Here are your targets:

      The Towson University Foundation Board of Directors has primary fiduciary responsibility for the Foundation. The Board of Directors consists of an Executive Committee, an Investment Committee, an Audit Committee and a Spending Committee. The men and women who serve on the Foundation board are volunteers who have extensive experience and expertise in the field of investing and business operations.

      Start with the oldest, most senior, highest paid Old White Dude.

      Demand that TU’s Diversity Coordinating Council Members give Mr. Hayden a Diversity Audit:

      Is his wife “too White”? Are his kids “too White?” Is his neighborhood “too White?” Is his country club “too White”? Is his church “too White”? Is his vaction gettaway “too White”? Is his law firm “too White”?

      Demand that TU’s donors to the foundation are given the Diversity Audit.

      If the Diversity Elites won’t harass him for his “too Whiteness,” then how can they justify complaining about the WSU’s “too Whiteness?”

      Matt, the time to GO BIG is now.

    • overboard
      Posted October 9, 2012 at 12:11 am | Permalink

      $52,000,000 and no breakdown on how much of it was given by Whites vs. how much given by Diveristy, on how much of the income goes to race specific benefits for Diversity vs. for Whites.

      Matt, here is your opportunity for “consciousness raising and attitude changing”!

      Are White donors consulted when the African American Alliance demands more money?

    • Jacques Vendée
      Posted October 9, 2012 at 12:25 am | Permalink


      Excellent last line. A very profound idea summed up with grace and simplicity.

  7. lemme say it
    Posted October 8, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    To Matt- Keep Fighting, but Fight Smarter and Better! Go on the Offensive.

    You should not have mentioned the poor White lady at CVS. The antifa will find her and her daughter. If you are pro White and high profile, anything you say can and will be used against us- we are under a Racial Bill of Attainders for our criminalized White privilege. You may be letting all this attention muddle your focus and foresight.

    You slur “whitestudent union” into two words instead of proudly annunciating it and distinctly pronouncing White-Student-Union as three words. (You tend to talk too fast in general.) The slur makes you sound frightened to say the name out loud. They are getting to you.

    If the TU administration isn’t showing the same concern and response to threats against you as they would have for a black student harrassed by Whites for having joined the African American Alliance, then you have a massive leverage for a class action lawsuit for discrimination. If the president apologized to the blacks at the Jared Taylor speech, then he was legitimizing anti White attitudes and tacitly permitting a climate of violence on campus. SUE HIM and demand immediate sensitivity training for black students, staff, and faculty to teach them about White Civil Rights, and demand more tenure track White professors who don’t hate Whiteness and will speak out about our plight of dispossession, disprivileging, and minoritization.

    Given how much anti White hatred that TU has permitted to be voiced on campus ever since your chalking White Pride on the sidewalks, then shouldn’t the recent victim of the black sexual assault SUE the administration for creating a hostile and permissive climate?

    You need to study the Black Outrage playbook, and invert it to your purposes. Everything blacks demand in response to disrespect and hate crimes, you should demand for Whites.

    You can do better and get more and go farther- FORWARD TO WHITENESS.

    You now have the right to demand that every organization pay the security fee for all their speakers, and the same black who spoke before Jared should speak at every event and explain the Rules. If others aren’t treated the same as you, then SUE over disparate impact, systemic bias, institutional racism, structural inequity, and elitist bigotry.

    SUE the administration, the trustees, the donors, and the governor. They are all either directly responsible or complicit in the injustice.

    • UFASP
      Posted October 9, 2012 at 2:41 am | Permalink

      It costs time and money to sue.

  8. Franklin Ryckaert
    Posted October 8, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Let this be the start of your own “long march through the institutions”!
    Learn from your enemies. Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, for example.
    Many cultural revolutions started at universities.

    Best wishes.

  9. Roissy Hater
    Posted October 8, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    We should have a more realistic view as to why whites don’t start white student unions on campus. It’s not because they are *brainwashed* by PC multiculturalism, it’s that they don’t care! Life is too easy and their is no reward for being an idealist or supporting a radical cause.

    White people are not starving to death in the streets, so it’s a little silly to pretend that we are victims living in the most affluent society ever created. (Those of us who believe in virtue and justice, along with high culture, ARE victims of not having those elements of Caucasian archetypes and beauty in our lives.)

    I believe it is noble to fight for the preservation of white culture, but it is not noble to fight against affirmative action so that a few more apathetic whites (Last Men) can get jobs they would have otherwise had the door shut on.

    • UFASP
      Posted October 9, 2012 at 2:35 am | Permalink

      I agree in sense. But my thoughts EVOLVED to where yours are at from listening to people like Mr. Heimbach. Yes, the vast majority of whites *truly* don’t care and thus “deserve” this mess in a cosmic sense. The idea, though, is to reach a critical mass who *may* care so that a domino effect may take place and affirmative action is something people relate to even if most lazy whites don’t “deserve” shelter from its scourge due to their own cowardice and lack of will. Don’t think of attacking such programs as a way of ensuring that more whites get pampered as an end; hopefully, it’s serving as part of a gauntlet against this anti-white culture and will operate as a gateway for the great thinking that occurs on sites like this one.

      If we want a movement, it can’t be all nebulous and high culture towards whites who’ve never thought about race deeply in their lives as much as that vision defines my motivation rather than whether or not Opie *actually* squeezes past Shantel for Harvard admissions. There are a small minority of whites who do care about the declining standards they see and the real causes behind them but doubt their instincts too much to act. White student unions talking about very basic issues can be liberating for such people (it’s intellectual dynamite) even if the vast majority of whites, like all people, are all too uncritical and lack principle. Ordinary whites have to understand what they’re rebelling against before they’ll take up any higher cause.

  10. rhondda
    Posted October 8, 2012 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    What a wonderful young man!

  11. Ragnar
    Posted October 8, 2012 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    Hat of to you, Matthew.

    The situation seems to be even more bisarr in the US then it is here in Sweden. But we have much in common; the demographic crisis, the media that doesn’t write about hate crimes towards whites. Black history month? It’s pathetic. The whole Scandinavia is now under heavy bombardment from the immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. There’s a lot of robbery directed to whites, fighting, rapes and not to mention the economic crises that they cause.

    Best wishes to you Matthew,

  12. Gregor
    Posted October 8, 2012 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    As I listen to this interview I’m half way around the world, in a crummy hotel room in a mountain town. Feeling a bit blue about the degenerate “culture” that permeates this place in our European Motherland.

    But after hearing this wonderful interview with Matt and Greg, the sun came out again, and the blues left. Gentlemen, thank you so much for all you do!

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