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A newly discovered recording of Jonathan Bowden lecturing at the London Forum in London on September 24, 2011. Many thanks to Jez Turner and the London Forum. For for London Forum-related material, see https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEwrMR1v4vK-LAp4805x6Bg  and http://identityforum.org.uk/ .