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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 203
Lessons from Shelbyville & Laibach in Slovenia

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Greg Johnson, John Morgan, and Michael Polignano reconvene for a new weekly Counter-Currents Radio podcast. This week, we discuss last weekend’s White Lives Matter rally in Shelbyville and John and Mike’s recent visit to Slovenia.

  • Introduction/Donations: 0:00
  • Shelbyville: 4:00
  • Slovenia and Laibach: 40:30
  • Shop talk: 52:30

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13 Comments

  1. Omar Filmersson
    Posted November 8, 2017 at 5:21 am | Permalink

    I have listened to this show several times. I appreciate it tremendously. The discussion on strategy and tactics is really needed, especially as many shy away from it or even discourage it. I hope that many of the points made during the show will also make it to an essay.
    For this show, and for the recent “Answering Normie Questions” (brilliant and exceptionally useful as well; please continue on this theme), I leave a tip of $100. Thank you.

  2. Jerry LaRue
    Posted November 6, 2017 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Absolutely wonderful discussion here, I’ll be sending this on to everyone I know in the movement.

  3. Antony
    Posted November 6, 2017 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    I’ve been into Laibach since the 80’s ! for those interested, here is their Youtube channel ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CG0KPy4aek&feature=em-uploademail

  4. Michael Polignano
    Posted November 6, 2017 at 1:52 am | Permalink

    Two additional points that came to mind since recording the interview.

    1. Mike Enoch, Richard Spencer, and Identity Europa did pull off a successful, identitarian-style action in Charlottesville in October, aka “Charlottesville 3.0

    2. But an even more successful action — brilliant, actually — was the “It’s Okay To Be White” campaign over Halloween on college and high school campuses around the US and Canada. It achieved national news coverage at bare minimal cost, both financially as well as in terms of physical risk. Not to mention viewing enjoyment reminiscent of Fight Club‘s Project Mayhem. Except real.

    • Lemur
      Posted November 6, 2017 at 4:53 am | Permalink

      Also in the success column is the proliferation of the so-called ‘right wing THOT’.

      Women are very sensitive to changes social mood, so their migration into the far right is another white-pill. Recent examples are Lauren Rose and Rational Black Pill.

  5. Carl von Roland
    Posted November 6, 2017 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    Activism isn’t easy and getting large actions right is a monumental task. Even activist groups that have been going for a decades make mistakes. The Alt-Right doesn’t have the institutional knowledge to do large demonstrations and other complex forms of street activism. Building this institutional experience will take time and mistakes will be made.

    The Alt-Right needs to start small and work its way up. Do small things such as postering or handing out fliers at a mall for 20 minutes with a group of friends. Build routines, get to know each other and figure out what works. Once you have experienced activists and routines you can start doing larger events.

    Activism does play an important role. It helps bring people into the movement irl, it definitely helps build community, it helps us spread our message and most importantly it gets our members active and involved.

    When it comes to optics just be yourself. You are not a German coming home from WWI so stop pretending to be one. You are not Ronald Reagan or a confederate soldier so stop pretending to be one. Don’t put on a costume, instead you should be and use the optics that come naturally to you while obviously trying to show the best side of you.

    • Lemur
      Posted November 6, 2017 at 4:30 am | Permalink

      promoting liminal ideological spaces on the internet is by far the most effective and low cost tool for recruitment. Once recruited, the absolute worst thing you could do is activism other than the type the Identertarian movement does. We want to obscure our networks so we can develop cadres capable of penetrating centres of power in peace.

      • K
        Posted November 9, 2017 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

        I agree. Activism is just asking for those in power for change. It doesn’t work and it when does it already has strong political and financial backing.

  6. marthary
    Posted November 5, 2017 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    you think jared taylor style conferences and webzines are going to create revolution??? greg whats wrong with you???

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted November 5, 2017 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

      This is the kind of straw man argumentation and childish ranting that leads to retarded, self-defeating WN 1.0 nonsense.

      Jared Taylor has done positive things for our movement for decades.

      Charlottesville, Gainesville, Shelbyville are net negatives.

      I would prefer that people do nothing than do things that harm us.

      I wrote this article years ago, but our audience has grown considerably since then. Everyone needs to read it today: https://www.counter-currents.com/2010/09/first-do-no-harm/

  7. Lemur
    Posted November 5, 2017 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    I wrote a post that got reproduced on TRS in the wake of C’ville detailing the way an insurgent cultural force should operate, applying lessons from Hezbollah in Lebanon: https://forum.therightstuff.biz/topic/55562/lessons-alt-right-could-learn-from-hezbolla-good-effortpost-found-on-mpc

    The reality is there will always be defective personalities on, or associated with, or associating themselves with the right until the counter-revolution has triumphed. Sam Francis traces the pathology (Into the Dustbin) to the right’s disconnection from real social and political forces. No doubt a positive feedback loop applies here. Metapolitical ascendancy produces effective cadres, effective cadres preserve and expand metapolitical dominance. If you lose momentum, the effect works in the opposite direction.

    In order to compensate for this phenomenon, the dissident right must concentrate on recruiting and developing human capital which is capable of successfully infiltrating and re-orienting the actual centres of power in our societies. Street “activism” is not one of those centres of power. The idea we can ‘red-pill’ the vast majority of the unwashed masses by evangelism on social media and demonstrations in the streets is a fatal misunderstanding of how power is wielded in society.

    Because a lot of disaffected individuals are drawn into far-right politics, we must promote a culture of personal development and healthy living (spiritually, socially, physically, and mentally) IRL. Those who cannot order themselves cannot order a society. Only a culture can effectively modulate a distributed network. Until the metric of success is widely considered to be whether a person plugged into the dissident right matrix has improved their own life according to objective standards, the metapolitical project of the far right will be sabotaged by retards, autists, egoists, and attention whores.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted November 5, 2017 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

      This is very well-said.

  8. K
    Posted November 5, 2017 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    I have told people several times that the national socialism and KKK symbols are just plain stupid. Whether or not you are an actual natsoc, it does not help to bring the swastika flag and your “cool” fashy gear. No matter how much you think “Hitler did nothing wrong” You look like an ignorant asshole to the average person. It is almost like these people don’t want “normies” to join white nationalism.

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