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Bill Cosby:
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Recent weeks have seen a few public figures take some surprising and welcome shifts to the Right.

First, Ann Coulter has started retweeting White Nationalists and hanging out with Holocaust revisionists. The day after Trump’s April 13 airstrikes on Syria, Ms. Coulter let loose a flurry of anti-war retweets from various other Right-wing commentators, including three from The Right Stuff’s Mike Enoch. This caused a media panic and Mike Enoch’s Twitter account was deleted within a matter of days.

On April 17, Takimag columnist and legendary Holocaust revisionist David Cole Stein released the article “Donald Trump: the First Jewish President?” The piece discusses the ways in which Trump resembles many of the negative stereotypes normally associated with Jews, and it was inspired, Cole claimed, by a recent meeting he had with Ann Coulter. Queen Ann proceeded to retweet Stein’s article eight times in a row, almost as if to say, “Not only do I not care if you know I hang out with Holocaust revisionists, I actually want you to know.” It’s like she’s never even heard of the Overton window.

This turn of Coulter’s began almost immediately after Trump’s most recent betrayal in Syria. No doubt part of her motive is to send a message to Trump that, should he not correct course and fulfill his campaign promises, she is willing to make common cause with the furthest fringes of the Right to oppose him.

Across the Atlantic, ex-Smiths singer Morrissey came out as a Right-winger. In a very interesting interview with fan Website Morrissey Central, Morrissey expressed some very frank opinions on the state of Britain (“civilization is over”), political correctness (“We are all called racist now, and the word is actually meaningless”), and dropped a few dog-whistles that suggest Moz is more red-pilled than he lets on.

But even more impressive was Morrissey’s endorsement of For Britain, a far-Right (by British standards) anti-immigration and anti-Islamist party led by Anne Marie Waters. Waters ran against Harry Bolton for the leadership of UKIP after Paul Nuttall stepped down, wanting to take the party in a more ethnonationalist direction, she but was defeated after the inevitable smear campaign by the entire UK media establishment and her own party. (Although in a twist of karmic fate, newly-elected party leader Harry Bolton was soon himself undone in a scandal when some hilariously racist text messages surfaced that had been written by the blonde, twentysomething model for whom Bolton had recently left his wife.)

It’s interesting to note that Morrissey, Anne Marie Waters, as well as Alt Lite personality and fellow For Britain supporter Tommy Robsinson are all ethnically Irish: Waters is an immigrant from Dublin, while Morrissey and Robsinson are the children of post-war immigrants from Ireland. It is ironic that the only people who seem to care about the survival of white Britons are the “blacks of Europe.”

Although perhaps it’s to be expected that the Irish should become the first people in Britain to embrace white identity. As they were social outsiders in the country only a few generations ago, and having only just recently been integrated into British society, it is unsurprising that the Irish-British would be particularly sensitive about becoming outsiders once again.

Morrissey may not be the biggest star in the world, but his worshipful fan base is notoriously obsessive and hang on his every word. Countless thousands credit Morrissey with inspiring them to convert to vegetarianism or introducing them to Oscar Wilde, or just with helping them get through a rough patch in life. Hopefully, Moz can get similar results in getting people to give nationalism a chance. In the context of fringe politics, someone of Morrissey’s stature and “outsider’s outsider” street cred endorsing the nationalist cause is a huge boon. Your move, Johnny Rotten.

But the biggest swing to the Right we’ve seen recently, and with which the mainstream media has become obsessed, is Kanye West, who, after becoming infatuated with “based black” Alt Lite YouTuber Candace Owens, is now a flamboyant Trump supporter and MAGA enthusiast. Kanye has even been trading compliments with the President himself.

As far as I can tell, Candace Owens, aka Red Pill Black, is your typical DR3 (Democrats R the Real Racists) Republican. She is a sort of black Tomi Lahren, or at least is trying to be. A good-looking young lady who has mastered all the basic Rush Limbaugh-style debate tactics and says things you’ve heard a million times before from others, only better, she still looks a lot prettier while saying them. As long as there are still boomers, you won’t see many of these on the unemployment line.

DR3 is a philosophy which holds that the real cause of black/white disparities are Democrat big-government policies, as well as the black tendency for groupthink. The argument goes like this: Democrats do not believe that blacks are capable of succeeding without all these government programs. We Republicans believe blacks are just as capable as whites and don’t need those programs. Therefore, Democrats are the real racists.

While DR3 is an insufficient, and frankly dishonest, argument (ever heard of human biodiversity?), and a cowardly way to avoid having to acknowledge race realism, it is less dishonest and toxic to whites than pure anti-white Cultural Marxism. And thus, it is an improvement on the status quo.

The GOP has been wheeling out based black guys for years: Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, J. C. Watts, Ben Carson, Alan Keyes, and various media personalities. Regardless, none of these people succeeded in converting large numbers of blacks to conservatism. George W. Bush appointed two black Secretaries of State back to back and still couldn’t shake the “racist” label.

Most “based black guys” fail because nobody believes them. Most of them are quite obviously sell-outs, careerists, Uncle Toms, or are middle-class and from economically atypical backgrounds. They lack a certain authenticity. Either you can just smell the suburbs on them, or you can see the dollar signs in their eyes as they recite Republican Party talking points off cue cards. They aren’t authentically black in the eyes of most blacks, let alone in the eyes of more cynical whites.

The thing that sets Kanye West apart from these, however, is that he has serious black street cred. As a rapper, he has dominated sales charts, won nearly universal praise from critics, and is respected by his hip hop peers and aficionados. He famously called George W. Bush a racist on live television and has been overtly, consistently, and fanatically pro-black. It will be interesting to see what effect a guy like Kanye can have by becoming a Trumpist. I’ve always felt that if some conservative wave were to crash over the black community, it would have to come from within, not because conservative whites would ever find the perfect black spokesman for their views.

Still, I’m not optimistic. Kanye has always been, if nothing else, fiercely individualistic. Most blacks are aggressively conformist and doggedly enforce conformity on other blacks. You need look no further for an example of this than to consider another big story in the news lately, since just as Kanye West was taking his first steps into “based black guy” territory, another was making his exit.

On April 26, 80-year-old black entertainment icon Bill Cosby was convicted on multiple counts of sexual assault. If ever there was someone who had maximal black street cred, it was Cosby. Cosby was a black trailblazer in the entertainment world. He started his career in the pre-Civil Rights era and clawed his way up from the bottom, starting out by doing stand-up in smoke-filled bars, and reaching the absolute pinnacle of celebrityhood. The Cosby Show, the crown jewel in Cosby’s career, was the number one show in America for five straight seasons. Every black entertainer who followed Cosby owes some debt to him for his normalizing of blacks on primetime television. But in the end, America’s Dad was just another Uncle Tom. Cosby is an example of how becoming a “based black guy” can go horribly wrong.

In May 2004, Cosby revealed the level of power he had attained at an NAACP award ceremony to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of the Brown v. the Board of Education decision that overturned segregation in public schools. Rather than merely offer some empty platitudes and an inspirational story as expected, Cosby issued a scathing critique of black culture and society which has come to be known as the Pound Cake Speech.

In the speech, Cosby made the case that, half a century after the landmark decision, American blacks could no longer in good faith continue to blame their woes and income disparities on white racism. He stated that the more pressing problem was poor parenting in the black community, and more generally blacks refusing to take personal responsibility for themselves or their children. He pointed to the multitude of disparities between the black community’s stated goals and its self-inflicted wounds: rampant single parenthood, the refusal to speak proper English, the nonsensically exotic baby names, the school dropout rate, and its lowbrow pop culture. Cosby argued that these factors were the real causes black/white disparities, and not some shady conspiracy organized by The Man.

Bill Cosby delivering his infamous “Pound Cake” speech in 2004.

It was a fairly “based” speech, in an Alt Lite sort of way. A few bell curves would have been nice, but not blaming everything on whitey was a refreshing change. Cosby was briefly the darling of conservative commentators, who were thrilled to see a respected black figure who actually “gets it” when it comes to race: gets it and is willing to give blacks the sort of tough love that whites are nowadays forbidden from giving themselves.

Needless to say, blacks themselves were not nearly as impressed. They rarely are when they are forced to self-reflect. For them, it was like the Saturday Night Live sketch where William Shatner told the fans at a Star Trek convention to “get a life.”

Cosby’s downfall began in October 2014, when black actor/comedian Hannibal Buress was doing a stand-up routine in Philadelphia. Buress was doing a bit about the “smug old black man” Bill Cosby talking down to black youngsters and telling them to “pull their pants up.” The bit was clearly referencing Cosby’s Pound Cake speech. Buress questioned Cosby’s license to criticize by pointing to the extensive rumors about Cosby being a serial rapist. From listening to the routine, you would think that Buress was more upset about Cosby telling kids to pull their pants up than he was about women being raped. But a video of the routine immediately went viral, and a flood of accusers came forward. Now, Cosby is going to jail.

I do not doubt that Bill Cosby is probably guilty of most of most of what he has been accused. Even if three-quarters of the women are lying, the remainder would be more than enough to justify sending Cosby away for life. However, you can’t help but notice how Cosby was able to get away with this for forty years – until he made that speech. There had been rumors of Cosby’s proclivities for decades, but powerful forces were always able and (more importantly) willing to protect him while he was breaking down showbiz barriers for blacks in entertainment. But once Cosby had broken all the barriers he was ever going to break down, and then started drifting toward the Right with his “pull up your pants” rhetoric, those same forces suddenly became unwilling to protect him anymore.

Some have speculated that the true purpose of the Pound Cake speech was to rehabilitate his reputation after some embarrassing court settlements that had preceded it. Indeed, it seems that the funnyman was trying to ward off rape accusations by pre-emptively adopting a cloak of moral authority. But you have to wonder what would have happened to Bill Cosby if, instead of telling black kids to pull their pants up, he had gone in the other direction: total Black Lives Matter. Would the media have been so quick to crucify Cosby if he were a reliable anti-white spokesman? Would Buress have been troubled by Cosby’s rapes so much if Cosby had been doing benefit shows for Mike Brown? Would the accusers have come forward if they knew that Cosby was producing a movie about slavery written by Ta-Nehisi Coates? Would the media have buried the accusations if Cosby were an asset to The Narrative? I guess we’ll never know.

But this is something for Kanye West to think about. Once you are labeled an Uncle Tom (which any black person who dabbles in even moderately conservative politics will be), one loses certain protections. You get your ghetto pass revoked.

Unlike the unwavering and unquestioning loyalty blacks have shown to the likes of O. J. Simpson and Michael Jackson during their legal troubles, blacks largely abandoned Cosby. Part of that may be due to the sheer number of his accusers, which makes Cosby’s innocence preposterously unlikely. But when has that ever stopped blacks? They stuck with O. J. through all the DNA evidence, didn’t they? And admitted woman-beater Chris Brown still sells millions of albums. But heaven help you if you’re a black man who tells black kids to pull their pants up.

Kanye West is about to learn that Right-wing politics, as blacks themselves might say, “ain’t no muthafuckin’ joke.” If Kanye uses drugs, he’d better quit them. If he has a mistress, he needs to break up with her. As an entertainer, Kanye only had to worry about the critics and his employers. If Kanye wants to step into the political realm, however, the entire Deep State apparatus could be brought to bear on him. And the Deep State has a lot of time and money invested in a particular Narrative, and they don’t like upstarts questioning it. God help Kanye if he actually becomes effective or starts saying things that make sense. All his dirty secrets will quickly become public knowledge.

20 Comments

  1. ster plaz
    Posted May 3, 2018 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    I remember once, shortly before Cosby did that ridiculous albatros of a TV show (as if any significant number of negroes out there in real life were like the Huxtables (what a White name)), he did some stand up routine in which he said he had a disagreement with his teenage son. The son wanted to do something and Cosby the father wanted the son to do different. The son resisted. Cosby said in his routine he told his son “I am your father, I brought you into this world, I can take you out again.”

    I swear that is what he said. I cannot recall what the disagreement was exactly but it wasn’t about any teenager behavior that threatened family/house or things that important. The son just wanted to pursue a way of doing something and the father (Cosby) wanted him to do different. Whatever it was about exactly, the general principle would hold.

    What struck me was that Cosby said the words like it was something he was showing pride in; threatening his offspring’s life over something that didn’t warrant it.

    Anyway, that is how a typical negro male talks to his children/sons. I saw it a few years later in the army (which had a higher percentage of negroes than the society at large; @20%). I witnessed several negro fathers talk to their sons (some around age 5) in a threatening manner/tone for trivial matters. This was in public in front of witnesses, so I can imagine it was worse in private.

    More worrisome is that so many Whites seem to think Cosby in real life was some kind of Dr. Huxtable. Around blax, do not relax.

  2. BjornThorsønn
    Posted May 3, 2018 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    From what i understood, 90% of the women Bill Cosby had mistreated where white.
    Must have been a coincidence…..

  3. Vagrant Rightist
    Posted May 2, 2018 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    The article makes an excellent point – that if Cosby had espoused typical indignant negro gibs politics, rather than white conservative values, would this have gone the way it had? It’s an important question.

    Two things I feel about this…

    Firstly, Hannibal Buress, whoever that is, and the blacks who shared the video, are unlikely to care about the moral implications of rape. I don’t believe rape as a moral concern really exists in black consciousness. I believe it’s something whites have tried to transplant as a moral concern onto blacks in America, Europe and very much in Africa, but I don’t believe it’s any kind of moral priority for negroes.

    So clearly it would not be the ‘black community’ outraged at Cosby’s rapes that led to this, but blacks using the allegation of rape to attack Cosby over his political views which were critical of worthless feral black culture.

    Secondly, I’m sorry, but for me Cosby proves there is no such thing as ‘based black’. Based blacks are yet another white invention, another white projection onto blacks about things whites want to see in them, it’s a kind of white anthropomorphism.

    Cosby may be have been able to imitate, even adopt some whitish/conservative values, but what good does this have against the backdrop of being a serial rapist ? Blacks can’t understand it’s not enough to talk about values, you actually have to be able to live as a good person, to be able to have empathy and guilt and to think about the future.

    I have long suspected there is a bottomless pit of dirt re serious crimes on many negro celebrities (we hear about quite a lot of it of course as it’s impossible to suppress), but there’s an effort to carefully manage this in the media so as to not paint blacks in an overly-negative (i.e truthful) light, and to sustain the anti-white cultural pressure.

  4. Peter Quint
    Posted May 2, 2018 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Blacks that come out, and state that they hate white people, and want to kill us are more beneficial to our cause than any number of uncle Toms.

  5. Peter
    Posted May 1, 2018 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Ann also commented on and defended the guy that sent out the GIF that pointed out that just about everybody that works for CNN is a Jew. While keeping that in mind, it’s worth noting Ted Turner founded CNN and made Cable TV into the industry it is. Once the Jews bought CNN they replaced all the Caucasians working there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a0LqLiq9Gg

  6. Prestoz
    Posted May 1, 2018 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Good article.
    I would just add that Johnny Lydon-Rotten of Sex Pistol fame also recently “came out” as a Trump/Brexit/Farage supporter!
    However I’m not sure he’s become “red-pilled” rather than that is how far the Overton window has actually moved since 1980.
    And – definitely agree that Morrissey is hiding his power level.

    • Tony Hayers
      Posted May 2, 2018 at 7:37 am | Permalink

      and Lydon of course is another London-born Irishman

    • Travis LeBlanc
      Posted May 2, 2018 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

      Johnny Lydon said “The working class voted for Brexit and I stand with them.” He said that while he did not agree with all of Trump’s positions, he found him “thrilling” and was pleased to seem him shake up the established order. There’s hope for the lad.
      Morrissey has always been nationalist in his own way. The music of The Smiths was always written specifically for a British audience with all sorts of obscure British references. In the MTV era when every British band was trying to break into the US market, it was really subversive to not pander to American audiences.
      Plus, Morrissey was a sentimentalist. His heroes were Victorian playwrights and old movie stars. It’s easy to see how Morrissey would be troubled by his culture being transformed.

  7. Peter
    Posted May 1, 2018 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    “Needless to say, blacks themselves were not nearly as impressed. They rarely are when they are forced to self-reflect” Hmm, what other ethnic group is known for having that problem?

    I have no idea about the guilt or innocence of Bill Cosby, but I recall when Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for governor in the early 2000’s and the opposition got about 30 women to complain about Arnold’s supposed sexual harassment of women over the decades, some of it being too dirty for me to believe and didn’t Trump have about 15 accusers during his presidential run. For Schwarzennegger and Trump they all just went away and I have my doubts about those accusers. The thing that distinguishes Cosby from Schwarzenegger and Trump though is that he is accused of rape and Schwarzeneger and Trump were not.

    Very good news about Coulter.

  8. Martin
    Posted May 1, 2018 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Good article, lots of seemingly disparate threads that are all tied together in the end by a coherent thesis.

    I think there has long been a modicum of respect for Trump among American blacks because he embodies, to a degree, some of the hip hop values that predominate in that community; namely, audacity, braggadocio, and ostentation. There is high regard for tycoons in the hip hop world – Jay Z named his record label after John D. Rockefeller. Contra David Cole, a case could be made that in some ways Trump is the first black president, or at least the first “bling” president.

    They said Bill Clinton was the first black president, which I found amusing because the main point of comparison was his inability to keep it in his pants. Clinton nonetheless embraced the label.

  9. Posted May 1, 2018 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    good article…credible thesis…as far as whether the white awakening was fast enough, probably yes, for most of europe…probably not for america

  10. Exoplanet 14
    Posted May 1, 2018 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    “Dolph” is correct, in my view, that it is a tactical error to accept blacks who are allegedly “based” (what a puerile term, btw) into the alt-right fold. They will never, as a group, become right-wing, and even if 98% of them did they’d still be ni**ers seeking to breed with the more attractive race of white women. But then, why do so many of the alt-right and GOP-types jump on a Kanye West bandwagon, when it happens? My theory is both blunt and unflattering: because so many on our side are so desperately desperate for –anyone– to support our views that they’re willing to accept anyone who will. And that’s a major sign of weakness, and only the weak can’t see that. Our goal is white nationalism, and not “multiracial white nationalism”. Trouble is, too many on the alt-right are too stupid to understand that.

    • Dazz
      Posted May 1, 2018 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

      I agree the term “based” is awful, but you are taking the term and its application too seriously…no serious White Nationalist is accepting blacks into WN, however some WN can actually see further than others, and understand tactical benefit of blacks like Kanye…that said, Kanye has an album coming out soon and I gotta agree people are jumping on this “based” Kanye thing far too soon, whether he is genuine or not, he is certainly doing a stunt to get him and his upcoming album (he is actually involved in a string of albums out soon) plenty of coverage and hype. The guy hasn’t even said he is right wing, he said he likes Trump as a great man (you don’t even have to agree with views of great men, and he has stated he doesn’t agree with all he says) and that he likes some woman who I never heard of prior to this Kanye thing.

    • ster plaz
      Posted May 3, 2018 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

      True about Whites accepting any non-White parroting White (conservative, Right, Republican) views. Colin Powell and Condolizza Rice were two others. Neither was a true conservative. Both were just establishment wanna-bes.

      Colin Powell had pretty much the same career choices and outcomes as John McCain. He was in the military for a career, was an officer, he had establishment backing (for being a negro) while McCain had his father/grandfather connections. Powell went into politics, had the same national security resume, if you will. He was as much a figure in the Republican party as McCain was.

      But against a (half) negro Presidential candidate (Obongo) Powell sided with his fellow negro, saying outright that he supported Obongo because he thought Obongo would be a “transformational figure”. Obongo himself said he wanted to “transform” America. And we all know that meant lower the number and percentage of Whites.

      But anyway, by all measures Powell should have supported McCain, being pretty much like McCain. But he supported Obongo. Why? Simple: Powell is/was a race loyalist. No matter how much better his life was by being invited and allowed into the White world, no matter how well he was treated by Whites, Powell still turned around the first chance and s#$* on White America (redundancy).

      Cosby and OJ Simpson can be said to be the same: no matter how much better their lives were by being in the White world and how much better they were treated by Whites, they still self destructed in a sense, rape and murder/armed robbery respectively.

      You can take the negro out of the hood/jungle, but you cannot take the hood/jungle out of the negro.

    • Jaego
      Posted May 6, 2018 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

      Yes, you are correct in your reasoning, but not your nomenclature. People who are that desperate are alt-lite. No alt-righter worthy of the name would hold such a view. It’s because of this psychological difference that the movements split. The Alt-lite are just a younger hipper version of Conservatism. Nothing much new there at all, just a broader tent perhaps.

  11. dolph
    Posted May 1, 2018 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    The U.S. continues to this day to accept African immigrants. This, combined with high birth rates on the part of both Africans and African Americans, and the U.S. gets more and more black, despite all of the dysfunction.

    Numbers, guys, numbers. It’s not about individuals in mass society. It’s about numbers, territory, and control. Blacks continue to proliferate in all directions in America. Nobody is stopping them, not even Trump.

    Unless you completely close the borders and resegregate, you are doomed based on numbers alone. White America is not being replenished by either birth rates or migration, as other white countries themselves have low birth rates and are aging.

    If you simply accept this state of affairs and welcome blacks as sidekicks, that’s your call, see how far you get. I have believed for a long time that Uncle Toms and uppity blacks are poison for white America, something completely lost on Republicans who desperately try to get blacks to be respectable. The ghetto blacks are more honest.

    Abandon black America. There’s no other way. They will bankrupt you, and soon. It’s only a matter of decades now, not centuries.

    • nineofclubs
      Posted May 1, 2018 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

      I think you’re correct up to a point.

      The first task, in the US as in Australia, is to stem the flow of unassimilable migrants. This might involve temporary alliances with groups that aren’t strictly opposed to mass migration on the grounds of preserving white ethnicity, but for environmental or economic reasons.

      The next job will be to seek segregation and autonomy for the ethnicities present in our current countries. For recently arrived migrants, gradual repatriation (Greg Johnson’s slow cleanse) seems like a good idea. But for those with no obvious alternative address – Australian aboriginals, American native Indians and some American blacks – it will be necessary to work with their ethno-nationalist factions to bring this about. I doubt that this TV character Kanye is representative of a black American separatist movement; someone may correct me on this. I imagine that there are, however, real black nationalist/separatist groups in the US?

      In Australia there are some aboriginal people who’d like nothing better than a separate Aboriginal state. They are a minority (as are white Australian nationalists) but I don’t think there’s any harm in collaborating with them from time to time, since our goals are broadly compatible.

      .

    • GithYankee
      Posted May 2, 2018 at 4:34 am | Permalink

      Dolph is correct here; I don’t know what part of “white genocide” people don’t understand. Has the dissident right given more money to the Kardashians than to Counter Currents? Probably, and I find this extraordinary.

      ” God help Kanye if he actually becomes effective or starts saying things that make sense. All his dirty secrets will quickly become public knowledge”
      This after a 22 year old kid, Byron De La Vandal gets doxed and fired from a marginal job in a theater troupe with nary a word from the “dissident right”. I’m supposed to feel sorry for a mega-millionaire black media star? This conclusion is insanity.

      Personally, after the red pill, I immersed in White culture and remain so. I even stopped listening to jazz because I understand that fundamentally White culture will leave the planet without total support. The ravings of a based black are not a strategy, are not a resistance, are not reliable in the future, and are not indicative of any broad based minority coalition coming to our “rescue”.

      • Jaego
        Posted May 6, 2018 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

        Don’t understand the first sentence in your last paragraph at all. Like the rest of the post though, and its urgent tone.

        • GithYankee
          Posted May 9, 2018 at 4:12 am | Permalink

          The point of that sentence is that like the author, I used to consume a fair amount of black culture, and would have taken the political goings on of blacks as serious things to be discussed. Now that we’re simply and irrevocably sundered into identity groups, I stick in my group. I wouldn’t know if Kanye West started quoting Evola or climbed Mount Everest, and Bill Cosby is simply another opportunistic rapist who validates the crudest KKK caricatures of the 1920’s.

          I feel like we’ve been told quite clearly by America at large that White identity is not allowed, not wanted, not welcome, and will not be a part of any national conversation. Given that, I don’t care about any black person showing conservative leanings or sympathy for Trump or white America. I’m sure that’s just preaching to the choir here, but where else can we preach? Take care

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