In December of 2016, I did an interview with Darryl Cooper’s The Decline of the West podcast. I thought it was a good discussion. Unfortunately, it disappeared from the web. Recently, a listener found and sent me an MP3 of the podcast. I have edited out the music at the beginning and end and some of Darryl Cooper’s introduction; tightened up the rest; and improved the sound. I want to thank Darryl Cooper for doing the interview and the listener who recovered it from oblivion.