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Nicholas J. Fuentes is Not a Holocaust Denier

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I caught a few episodes of Nick Fuentes’ show off and on before the whole Groyper War began, and have followed recent developments with great interest. I’ve seen the small handful of out-of-context clips they’ve used to try to frame him as racist, anti-Semitic, White Nationalist, Alt-Right 2.0, and as a Holocaust denier. These smears are a transparent attempt by anti-American “liberals” and “conservatives” to silence a rising star who speaks for the sixty-three million Americans who voted for Donald Trump. They refuse to engage with him and want him deplatformed because they know he would run circles around them in a debate, if given the chance.

Fuentes’ political views align more or less with Candidate Trump. The people currently opposing Fuentes also opposed Trump as part of the #NeverTrump movement. They flip-flopped to support President Trump once they realized Candidate Trump only existed to get himself elected. They never supported nationalism to begin with, and can’t deal with entirely reasonable questions about vitally important issues. Contrary to the smears, one need not be racist, a White Nationalist, or Alt Right to be concerned about mass immigration, or an anti-Semite to question America’s obscene support for Israel.

Nor is Fuentes (or Charles Murray, or Stefan Molyneux, and so on) a White Nationalist, Alt Right, or racist for discussing racial differences. There are obvious, testable differences in historical voting trends and average intelligence and behavior. These differences have social and political ramifications that will become unavoidable as America’s white population is dispossessed. Any attempt to keep a lid on these admittedly touchy subjects with the tired smears of yesteryear will soon prove futile. At some point, serious people are going to have to tell the pearl-clutchers with their heads in the sand to pipe down so that the adults in the room can discuss solutions besides “blame whitey” and “pay up, whitey” lest the country devolve into civil war. Those who try to shut down the conversation reveal themselves to be complicit in America’s destruction.

One clip taken out of context shows Fuentes making light of the deprivations of segregation. In fact, he was merely echoing what Joe Biden once said about segregation being not so bad for blacks. This really puts the attacks on Fuentes into perspective: Are we to believe that Fuentes should be deplatformed and ostracized out of polite society as an incorrigible racist (when in reality he’s a big Kanye West fan), while Joe Biden – who once said essentially the same thing – currently sits as the Dems’ frontrunner for President? Truly, the establishment – including supposedly conservative organizations like Turning Point USA and outlets like National Review – has one set of rules for itself and another for the rest of us. Canadian liberals showed just how much they care about “racism” by reelecting Justin Trudeau in the wake of his blackface scandal, yet these conservatives are waging war on Fuentes? What’s really going on here?

Other clips supposedly prove that Fuentes is anti-Semitic. In both examples, one dealing with Dave Rubin and another with Matt Walsh, Fuentes crassly stresses the Jewishness of the pundit or outlet to imply a pro-Jewish political slant. Of course, Jews audaciously cry foul when they get lumped together as having shared interests (“hello, no one is buying it” department?), but it’s a tactic regularly exercised by pundits of all stripes to undermine the credibility of sources they don’t like or simply disagree with. Whether it’s Tucker Carlson – who has been described by some as parroting White Nationalist talking points – or the state media aparati of nations at odds with American interests like Russia Today or PressTV, everybody has a slant . . . except for Jews, they admonish.

One of the more odious attacks has been to label Fuentes a Holocaust denier. However, he has repeatedly told his audience – some of whom delight in taboo subjects – that he does not actually deny the Holocaust. This has never been acknowledged by his detractors, nor has the fact that Fuentes does not make a habit of discussing the subject. He was asked about it by one of his viewers in the form of a joke, and he riffed on its premise. Fuentes does not even rise to the level of a Holocaust revisionist: His answer to the question dealing with the mathematics of the death toll at Auschwitz reveals he’s unfamiliar with even the basic claims made about it.

For starters, it is not claimed that six million Jews were systematically gassed and cremated at Auschwitz, as suggested by the question. Nor is it claimed that the systematic killing of Jews took place over the course of a five-year period (the crematory at Auschwitz wasn’t built, and thus could not have been operational, until early 1941, and camp operations ceased before Germany’s defeat). In other words, the person asking Fuentes about the Holocaust got the basic details of the subject wrong; that Fuentes did not catch these errors implies he hasn’t seriously investigated the Holocaust himself. Ironically, the clip in question belies the notion that Fuentes is Jew-obsessed or studies revisionist material.

Furthermore, if entertaining the notion that the six million figure is malleable makes Fuentes a Holocaust denier, what should we make of Jewish historian Raul Hilberg’s estimate of between 4.9 and 5.4 million total victims, as stated in his “three volume, 1,273-page magnum opus” The Destruction of the European Jews? Hypothetically, Fuentes could have stated outright that the oft-quoted tally of six million Jews is off by more than a million and he would merely be quoting the conservative tally of one of the foremost authorities on the Holocaust. It would not be a denial, and not even controversial.

By the same logic, Holocaust scholar Dr. Deborah Lipstadt must be a Holocaust denier, too. She has admitted that the Nazis never made soap out of Jewish victims – a vicious anti-German narrative repeated as established fact for half a century following the war. It turns out it was nothing more than a completely unsubstantiated rumor, and likely black propaganda. If this story could go unchallenged for that long without a shred of evidence to back it up, nobody should be unpersoned – let alone criminalized – for raising doubts about other questionable claims. Yet if non-Jews threaten to debunk unsubstantiated and demonstrably unscientific stories, they are immediately ritually defamed as “anti-Semitic” deniers, if not outright Nazis – and in some twenty countries can be thrown in jail! In contrast, not one Jew who has spread the soap blood libel ever had his or her life ruined for doing so, or for revising what had been a core tenet of Holocaust orthodoxy. The double standard doesn’t end there, either.

It must also be said that it is the Jewish state’s official policy to deny the Holodomor and the Armenian genocide, which together claimed more victims than the Holocaust. Given that most of Fuentes’ critics tacitly support Israel, they’re total hypocrites. Further, as Fuentes points out, Ben Shapiro once openly argued for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. It seems Fuentes’ detractors believe that denying a genocide (which Fuentes has never done) or supporting ethnic cleansing (which he has also never done) is only problematic if it involves Jewish victims. This could accurately be described as a form of Jewish supremacy, something to keep in mind whenever the same cabal of pro-censorship authoritarians project smears of “supremacism” onto young and inexperienced pundits like Fuentes.

Moreover, one must also take into consideration the style of Fuentes’ show and the often flippant manner in which he deals with the onslaught of oddball, non sequitur questions from the chat. Many are clumsy attempts at edgy humor in an effort to make the host laugh. Because of this, Fuentes often berates his own viewers’ bad jokes – which is part of the fun of his show. Reading a viewer’s comments isn’t an endorsement; often he’s just doing it to entertain his viewers. Besides, the humor of the joke wasn’t really a jab at the victims of the Holocaust, but at what Norman Finkelstein calls “The Holocaust Industry” and its attendant social norms and etiquette. If you put a sign that says “do not push” on a big red button, what do you think will happen? This is Internet Humor 101.

That said, having a laissez-faire attitude towards the Holocaust is a normal and healthy progression towards healing. Such tragedies must become historified; that is to say, they inevitably lose their emotional impact over time. Attempting to keep the bodies warm through an emphasis on Holocaust education, and yearly Holocaust-related films and television shows, is now desensitizing people to the topic. They’ve begun to wonder why this one chapter in human history is put on a pedestal at the expense of all others. Indeed, treating the subject lightly does not imply Jew-hatred at all; the same Zoomers who joke about the Holocaust have no problem with shoot-‘em-up video games based on the Second World War, which in some cases claimed the lives of their own great-grandfathers. Respect for the dead is fleeting, and every tragedy becomes a comedy, as they say.

The more these reality-deniers (demographics-deniers, science-deniers, genetics-deniers, sex-deniers, and so on) tell us that “the great replacement is a white supremacist conspiracy theory,” “there’s no such thing as race,” “whites have privilege,” “men can be women” and vice versa, and yes, even the sacred “six million died, not one more and not one less,” the more they will provoke a generational backlash that will make their heads spin. And with so many of these anti-American, anti-free speech, Marxist activists being Jewish, they’d better be careful or “okay, Boomer” might well become “Okay, Jew.”

13 Comments

  1. rujv
    Posted November 26, 2019 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Because its all they have. Without it, their anti-White guilt tripping collapses. And freed of the spell, we may look around and conclude “these are not our allies”!

  2. Vauquelin
    Posted November 22, 2019 at 2:11 am | Permalink

    “Indeed, treating the subject lightly does not imply Jew-hatred at all; the same Zoomers who joke about the Holocaust have no problem with shoot-‘em-up video games based on the Second World War, which in some cases claimed the lives of their own great-grandfathers. Respect for the dead is fleeting, and every tragedy becomes a comedy, as they say.”

    I was thinking about something a little more recent.
    https://youtu.be/VkSMSbFV_q0

  3. Corday
    Posted November 21, 2019 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    “six million died, not one more and not one less”

    I think you’re on the mark on most everything here. But I have to point out that I’ve never heard any Jew argue for “not one more.”

  4. Jeffrey Heavin
    Posted November 21, 2019 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    Informative, insightful, and “Hugo” is just fun to say.

  5. Grumpy
    Posted November 21, 2019 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    “has one set of rules for itself and another for the rest of us”
    This is human nature, especially in groups. It’s one of the main reasons I join NO group. All groups devolve into tribes that bring out the worst in people.

    • Mike Dolphgren
      Posted November 21, 2019 at 9:21 am | Permalink

      Ah yes, I see a lot of conservative inc. types use this line of thinking as well.

      The problem is that even if you don’t care about identity politics, it certainly cares about you.

      I wonder how well colorblindness will serve the average “center-right” white male when he’s denied tenure because left-wing marxists, who control hiring, have collectively decided his melanin content isn’t high enough to bring him on as one of a University’s academic staff.

      The answer is as simple as it is damning.

      • grump
        Posted November 22, 2019 at 8:48 am | Permalink

        You don’t get it. I don’t like your “tribe” any better than the left. The right advocates for eternal war and millions of innocent civilian deaths in order to “free” them and bring about democracy, by lethal force. And at the same time, “Not one innocent child” shall be aborted.
        The level of hypocrisy is staggering in ALL groups. I am an individual and I decide, not some “tribe”. I’ll fight my own battles, thank you very much.
        And for your information, I have been quite successful at it for 70 plus years. I don’t need nor want your help. You all sicken me.

        • Corday
          Posted November 22, 2019 at 11:27 am | Permalink

          Many of us on the Right share your attraction to individualism, but realize that it is an impossible ideal. You were part of groups before you even exited the womb, whether you like it or not. Everything about you is informed by your race, culture, family, language, sex, etc. in ways that are often imperceptible. This is my understanding of Heidegger’s concept of “Geworfenheit.” The free floating individual, born as a tabula rasa and developing independent of any outside influence, is a biological and social impossibility. On a practical/strategic level, it is also powerless in the face of collectivism.

    • Exile
      Posted November 21, 2019 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

      Another casualty of tactical libertarianism.

      The idea that any form of awareness of group interests or collective action to protect those interests (“tribalism”) is bad is a false premise globalists use to render the White population powerless.

      The only way to “fight” hostile tribalism is with your own tribe.

      We’re naturally tribal – we evolved in small bands.

    • scott
      Posted November 21, 2019 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

      The individualism thing is so pathetic and stupid it makes my head hurt.

      Civilisation is a team sport dummy it takes a group of people working together to build and maintain civilisation without some sort of a group or bond your society just slowly falls apart and collapses as we are seeing in the west.

      But I’m sure a big brained high IQ individualist like yourself will fare well as a despised minority in your own country and I’m sure the new African and Mexican majorities will be able to maintain the first world living standard of your country and you will receive the same minority rights, affirmative action and diversity hire quotas which they received and they will not see you as an evil white man but an enlightened Individualist.

      • Grumpy
        Posted November 22, 2019 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

        First, thanks to all of you for making my point so well and ignoring why I don’t join groups. You people kill millions. You band together and evil always results. Tribes always sink to the lowest common denominator and are taken over by the most evil sociopaths.
        Second, you have drunk the kool aid and now believe collectivism is the only way. The propagandists got you.
        And Scott, I’m sure it does make your head hurt. Going it alone on ethics, character and morals is hard and requires actual cognitive thinking among others things. Weighing multiple priorities and choices within those moral limits is difficult, but not impossible.
        I make my own way, you are a follower. There’s room for both, but you only see your own way and no room for me. I feel sorry for you.
        Remember, Karma is a bitch and it is real. Your tribe will be of little help when the consequences of your actions come home to roost.
        Good luck, you will need it.

        • Hugo Adrian
          Posted November 22, 2019 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

          Liberal individualist values are more likely to thrive in homogeneous societies where you don’t have all of these divisions. That is ultimately what we want. We are not collectivist in the same sense as communists. As demographics change America will become even more of a uniparty state than it is today, and it will be drawn further and further towards socialism and communism because only whites vote for Republicans in any great number. At that point, the Democrats will become unaccountable as they will be guaranteed the vote. The supreme court will be stacked with liberal justices who will tear up the constitution. Free speech and gun rights will be among the first to go. The “haves” will increasingly be expected to pay for the “have nots.” The science says no matter how much money is thrown at the racial gaps, they will persist because they are genetic. Therefore white nations have nothing to gain from the sort of society that is being engineered through mass immigration.

          No matter how much of an individualist you are, you will be lumped in with whatever group the left can identify you with. Look into the “progressive stack” and see where you fit in, as it will determine how you will be treated. You may think you’re an individual, but believe me you’re not. Your race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, level of education, net worth, marriage status, etc. puts you into a specific category whether you like it or not. Claiming to be an individual will not spare you from affirmative action-type laws or social norms targeting your group. For example, despite being a minority in America, Asian-Americans are being systematically discriminated against in college admissions to make room for underachieving blacks and Hispanics. They aren’t spared for being “people of color” too.

          When a white minority does not behave collectively and relinquishes its nation to others, you get Zimbabwe and South Africa. In the latter, the black government is appropriating white-owned farm land and giving it to blacks. It doesn’t matter if the white farmer says he’s an individualist who believes in treating everyone as individuals, he will lose his land based solely on the color of his skin. This is ultimately self-defeating, as the new owners who run the farm into the ground will not pay taxes, and will not produce food. In many cases, the black farm workers who enjoy a good quality of life will lose their jobs too. That means less money for essential programs and food production wanes, causing famines (see Zimbabwe). Likewise, the SA government has passed affirmative-action laws that requires proportional representation in business. This means that white-owned businesses cannot hire or promote the best candidate for the job, but must fill positions to achieve the required number of black managers, for example. As you can probably imagine, this is disastrous in sectors that require highly educated and intelligent staff to keep the system running smoothly.

          So, by all means continue to pat yourself on the back for being morally superior to us evil people. The collectivists that take power will not spare you, or your kids, or grand kids, from what is coming if whites don’t band together to keep this country the way it should be. And if you’re black, I wouldn’t bet on the new Hispanic, Chinese, or East-Indian majority to treat you as well as the whites have. Remember that in Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge targeted and killed people simply because they wore glasses because they thought they were intellectuals and bourgeouis.

        • scott
          Posted November 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

          *Tips fedora.

          I love how people like you are simply to thick to understand that there is a middle ground between absolute collectivism and deracinated individualism clowns like you are why your country is being colonised by Mexico and Africa.

          You are simply to ignorant or to low IQ to understand that weather you choose to be part of a group or not you will always be seen as being part of a group by others aka non whites and leftists will always see you as being an evil white man but I’m sure you will be able to convince the 80 IQ blacks the Muslims and the feral white hating leftists of your individuality and I’m sure when you are the minority in a leftist country you will be treated with respect as an individual and of course the living standard of your new majority non white leftist country will remain 1st world.

          “People like you kill millions” that gave me a good chuckle people like me believe that all people have an intrinsic right to their own ethnically homogeneous nations people like you have sat back as your country has been systematically destroyed and your people have been humiliated and treated like garbage in a country their ancestor founded built and died for and you have shrugged your shoulders and refused to pick a side because you are a big brained centrist individualist.

          People like you sit back and do nothing as millions die.

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