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Boxer, Stade dei Marmi, Rome/ 1928-1938

Boxer, Stade dei Marmi, Rome, 1928-1938

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Many white men of my generation grew up with an inferiority complex when it came to sports. In the 1970s, it was impossible not to notice the rapid takeover of most contact sports by blacks. Football, basketball, and boxing, most of all.

We could hold our own in baseball, and still dominated sports such as tennis and golf. But for those of us who valued the rougher and more athletic endeavors, this was little consolation. When it came to sports that required running, jumping, and punching, most white guys I knew were willing to concede that we were second best.

Gerry Cooney

Gerry Cooney

I still remember how disappointed the men in my family were when heavyweight boxer Gerry Cooney, truly the last Great White American Hope, was stopped in the 13th round by black champion Larry Holmes on June 12, 1982. At the time, Cooney was a serious contender and a real threat to Holmes. He hit incredibly hard and had recently wiped out top ten guys like Jimmy Young (who had nearly topped Muhammad Ali in 1976) and Kenny Norton (who had once beaten Ali and had given Holmes all he could handle in 1978). Holmes, on the other hand, was an unpopular champion due to his lack of charisma and his generally inarticulate and surly attitude. He also lacked the razzle-dazzle of Ali and the firepower of a Mike Tyson. Holmes’ primary assets were his stamina, his durability, and a solid jab. Most of his best wins were ugly and came late (for instance, against Cooney, Mike Weaver, and Earnie Shavers).

For Cooney to conclusively lose to a champion like that was even more disheartening for whites. At one point during the fight, one of Cooney’s trainers tried to exhort his man by saying, “America needs you!” He was right. America did need Gerry Cooney. White America did, at least. This was why President Reagan had a phone installed in Cooney’s dressing room and not Holmes’. Reagan and the rest of white America felt it was time for one of their own to reclaim the storied title of heavyweight champion of the world.

But it was not meant to be.

My gut feeling is that something inside of American whites died on that day. We began to doubt ourselves. We stopped taking ourselves seriously. We became the butt of jokes and didn’t seem to mind it so much. Two pop culture moments in the 1980s and 1990s that I can remember engaged in this sort of thing: Coming to America (an Eddie Murphy comedy movie) and The Naked Gun 2 1/2 (from the producers of Airplane!).

Rocky Marciano

Rocky Marciano

In the former, as the black barbers discuss why Joe Louis was the greatest fighter of all time, a little Jewish man with a thick Yiddish accent (played by Murphy in ‘white face’) interjects: “Vhat about Rocky Marciano!” At the time, Marciano (who retired in 1955) had been the last white heavyweight champion. The barber (also played by Murphy) dismisses the Jewish man in ebonically crude and vulgar fashion: “How come whenever we talk about boxin’ some white guy’s gotta pull Rocky Marciana out ‘dey ass?”

A few years later in The Naked Gun 2 1/2, the deadpan gumshoe Frank Drebin (played by Leslie Nielson) advises boxing fans to “never bet on the white guy.” While considered funny then, these kind of jokes wouldn’t have played before the night Gerry Cooney lost in crushing fashion to Larry Holmes. Remember the movie White Men Can’t Jump? Well, apparently we can’t fight either. Ha. Ha.

Fast forward to 2016, and that joke isn’t so funny anymore. Like with countless movies and serial television programs these days, the dead seem to keep rising.

While blacks still dominate boxing and represent most of the sport’s elite (for example, Andre Ward, Deontay Wilder, and the untouchable Floyd Mayweather), whites have been making a comeback. In the early aughts, two white UK fighters, Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe won world championships, with the latter, a super-middleweight, retiring undefeated in 2008 after beating black hall of famers Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins. Since then, many of the top middleweight to light heavyweight fighters have been white, most prominently, Kelly Pavlik, Carl Froch, Lucien Bute, Mikkel Kessler, and Sergey Kovalev.

Then, of course, there’s the heavyweight division, which has been enduring an invasion from the former Soviet Union since the 1996 Olympics. Last year marked the first since 2004 when neither of the Ukrainian Klitschko brothers served as a world champion. The Klitschkos are amazing physical specimens, with the elder Vitali standing at 6 feet, 9 inches, and his kid brother Wladimir standing at a mere 6 feet 7. These guys both have adonis-like physiques, impeccable dedication, college degrees, and intellectual interests outside of boxing. For example, they both play chess and helped promote the Vladimir Kramnik-Peter Leko chess championship match in 2004. Vitali Klitschko retired in 2012 after 11 title defenses with a gaudy record of 45-2. He was involved in the Orange Revolution over a decade ago and is the current mayor of Kiev. Wladimir is still active. With a 64-4 record, he was defeated by decision on November 28, 2015, losing his title after 18 consecutive defenses. It was his first loss in 12 years. The man who beat him, Tyson Fury of the UK, is also white.

The Klitschko brothers

The Klitschko brothers

The heavyweight division in general has been loaded with former-Soviet whites for past ten-to-twelve years with names like Chagaev, Maskaev, Valuev, Povetkin, Ibragimov, Ustinov, and Dimitrenko littering the lists. Perhaps they never broadcast the Holmes-Cooney fight in the USSR.

Another aspect of the recent upsurge in white pugilism can be found in mixed martial arts. People have known for a long time that white guys do very well in MMA. This is in part because wrestling, a sport in which whites have long excelled, is a big part of it. Furthermore, MMA requires 4-ounce gloves instead of the 8-to-10 ounce gloves used in boxing. This gives punchers a much better chance of hurting their opponents with one shot. Large gloves, on the other hand, give the speedier, flashier types (i.e., black fighters) an advantage in today’s boxing, since there is less risk attached to every photogenic move they make. This wasn’t the case years ago when the gloves were smaller, and white boxers such as Tony Zale, Jake La Motta, Joey Maxim, and Rocky Marciano dominated the sport. This also is not the case in MMA where, with 4-ounce gloves, even a grazing shot can put your lights out. As a result, there have been many white champions and dominant fighters in mixed martial arts. A quick rundown includes Fedor Emelianenko, Randy Couture, Ken Shamrock, Mark Coleman, Chuck Liddell, Dan Henderson, Chris Weidman, Luke Rockhold, Matt Hughes, Georges St. Pierre, Conor McGregor, Frankie Edgar, and many others.

As with almost all sports in which they compete, blacks also over-perform in MMA, with pound-for-pound greats like Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Daniel Cormier, and Demetrius Johnson being the most dominant. But even against these guys, white fighters have performed well. Weidman recently stopped Silva twice. The Swede Alexander Gustafsson lost razor-thin decisions to both Jones and Cormier. And Ian McCall once fought Johnson to a draw.

This point was punctuated quite clearly on September 10, 2016 when newly crowned UFC heavyweight champion Stipe (pronounced ‘stee-pay’) Miocic knocked out his hulking black opponent Alistair Overeem in the first round. It really wasn’t much of a fight. After being knocked down by a punch, Miocic fended off a guillotine choke, got to his feet, and bullied Overeem around the Octagon until his man lay senseless on the canvas.

Stipe Miocic

Stipe Miocic

Miocic, who hails from Cleveland, is of Croatian descent and doesn’t care who knows it. He is a gruff, no-nonsense tough guy who likes to brutalize people. His intensity is a thing to behold. After destroying another top contender in January 2016, Miocic got within feet of UFC president Dana White and primal screamed at him for his title shot. White — who went on to endorse candidate Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention — later admitted that he found Miocic extremely intimidating.

While it is questionable that Miocic will hold on to his belt for long (in the UFC heavyweight division, no one does), his recent victory should remind white people everywhere that, despite what happened on June 12, 1982, we can fight. Moreover, we can win.



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  1. antuerius
    Posted September 25, 2016 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    I don’t respect blacks participating in western sport. Nor do I trust Jewish team ownership. Similar to Asians intruding in our classical music traditions, the perversity of the jewish interest that mediates profits from these false equivalences, amid illusory contests of vastly differing sub-species, remains fundamentally destructive to western culture. In the same way that our leaders have abandoned their duty to defend our technological investiture from pillage by unworthy out-groups, so too are the mainstays of our own cultural practices left with shaved silver and clipped coins.

  2. Bobby
    Posted September 24, 2016 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    How about a much older Max Schmeling beating Joe Louis the first time around?

  3. good boy
    Posted September 23, 2016 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    as an australian i am always fascinated and dismayed by american WN’s internalised black supremacy narrative when it comes to sports.

    1. many people point out an anti-white agenda at work in the american sports system and its youth feeder system, it could possibly be explained by black’s reaching puberty and physical maturity before whites or it could be something more sinister, either way the result is the same. knowing the lengths the ZOG goes to to promote black media personalities, black actors, black ‘intellectuals’ etc. what makes you think they wouldnt do the same to america’s favorite past time?

    2. this bias, along with a propensity of american’s to assume the rest of the world doesnt exist is largely responsible for perception that blacks are the world’s best athletes. if more anglo-centric sports were popular in the US you would have an opportunity to see your niggers tested against the world more often.

    the best rugby union, rugby league, soccer, cricket etc. teams are predominantly white.
    lithuania’s all white basketball team has defeated america’s numerous times, no one else on the planet plays grid-iron – its a horrible, stilted, disjointed sport – but if you want you can field a US all nigger allstar rugby team against my local town’s all-white team and see how that goes.

    3. white decline in martial sports like boxing during the latter half of the 20th century is probably the result of the increased economic prosperity and booming white middle class at the time. whites in the west were enjoying the most prosperous, peaceful and ultimately decadent period in human history, it is not hard to understand why very few saw fit to participate in boxing – or sport at all for that matter- an activity usually reserved for those from lower socio-economic backgrounds.

    4. now that millions of whites are just as impoverished as minorities we’re seeing a resurgence of white dominance in martial sports. as economic conditions decline and atomisation as a result of multi-culturalism perpetuates, we will see more and more whites turn to martial sports. obviously the eastern europeans never experienced the economic boom that the west did so they were never exposed to the harmful biological and cultural effects of it, not only are the great sports fighters, their culture overall is a lot healthier and masculine as a result.

    5. blacks are the fastest runners, they can have that.

  4. Posted September 23, 2016 at 5:54 am | Permalink

    The implicit racial competition in boxing is one of the reasons why the Rocky movies were so popular in their time. Rocky Balboa, linked by name to Marciano the last white champ, is a white fighter who can beat the best of the black fighters. He didn’t fight a white guy until part IV, and even then it was a commie.

  5. Goyo
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    You left out Lomachenko and GGG, not to mention Canelo (yeah he’s from TJ, but you can’t deny that a ginger is White).

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:02 am | Permalink

      Goyo, I agree. But GGG and Canelo are both only partially white. While I personally consider them white, I didn’t want to introduce partially-white fighters since miscegenation would introduce a new wrinkle to the article and cause it to lose some of its focus. This is also why I didn’t include the UFC’s Eddie Alvarez or Dominick Cruz. The former, I’m pretty sure, is half-European, and that latter may as well be white by the way he acts. Also, many folks who are 100% white European have last names ending in Z.

  6. Posted September 22, 2016 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    DISAGREE : We just frame the observation incorrectly.

    1) White men excel (dominate in war) because of how we act in GROUPS of individuals. Even the legendary quote that one Spartan is the equal of any other warrior, but together they are unequalled. The reason we do excel is something that we are just beginning to understand, but it appears to be a)lower impulsivity/higher calm, b) cultural indoctrination into indo european heroism c) our ability to spatially model groups – or better yet, to operate as a pack – this last one I am trying to find more research on, d) militia training or experience from youth with the expectation of war, and lastly e) what appears to be an iq advantage in our professional warrior class.

    2) The races can easily be stacked by degrees of sexual maturity – and degree of sexual maturity is second only to scale of class distributions in determining demonstrated racial differences. Asians lowest, whites second, black haired peoples third, and Africans highest. It is illogical to assume that we will not pay a price for our ‘domestication’. But we hold the ‘upper middle’ in both degree of sexual maturity, and balance of spatial vs verbal intellectual ability. The east Asians lack our verbal ability and they are by far the least sexually mature people (I have theories on that – since I’m pretty sure it’s selection of females that determines that trend, and greater immaturity was preferable(necessary) in the mongoloids than in the whites to create a similar behavior in male selection of females. All that interesting info said, Asians obtain longer life spans. Blacks obtain greater physical tolerance for damage, and require less nurture for shorter periods of time – both suitable for a low IQ population in a hostile environment. These small differences contribute significantly to the in-progress speciation of the races after we exterminated the previous human species. So blacks pay for their superior speed and strength far more so than we pay for our less superior speed and strength by gaining lower impulsivity, better organization, better use of weapons. (You don’t see that many black swordsmen either). So we have simple sports (basketball, weightlifting, and boxing) and we have complex sports (fencing, quarterbacking, and strategy games), and we are just not paying attention to how important the complex sports are in which we excel.

    3) Competitive sport in the west was generally for fitness (among militia and soldiers) and gambling (among militia and soldiers), and most often between men of similar abilities. (even judicial duels had to be reasonably ‘fair’ matches. But this sport does not demonstrate how we do in war. Empirical evidence does. (Black logistics, white special-forces, and officers.) So our physical fitness was (like Swiss men today) a property of our ‘everyone fights for the franchise’ system of enfranchisement. So the purpose of such fighting was in-group improvement of the group, not testing against outgroups. So we are ‘testing’ for the wrong thing. We’re running an indifferent test of the lower castes and judging ourselves against a false measure. Put 100 white men with weapons aginst 100 of anyone else and that’s the difference in our abilities. I would counter that the problem is that cheap sports are physically advantageous and expensive sports with lots of equipment are expensive. In real terms football is analogous a bunch of underclass peasants protecting the king (quarterback). (Conversely we do the same thing when competing with Jews. If we ‘stuck together’ like they do we would end their ability to employ the female reproductive strategy against us: shame, rally, divide, conquer, and siphon resources.)

    So I suggest we remember WHO AND WHAT WE ARE: Spartans, Romans, Germans, Vikings. And we need to f_uck the Athenians/Venetians/Spanish/French/English and their effeminate pretenses.

    Rule or be ruled. We invented aristocratic egalitarianism: equality in sovereignty for those who fight.

    Let’s get back into legions and fight.

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:08 am | Permalink

      Hi Curt,
      Thanks for that comprehensive exegesis. When re-framing the idea of ‘fighting’ to warfare, you are correct, as history has shown the greater success rate of European and European-descended armed forces when compared with that of non-Europeans.

    • R.
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

      Great observations. Yes. I have begun rallying young men in my home town around sport and firearms. Lots of younger fellas are seeing how things are shaping up and they want none of it. Healthy disdain for Marxism and Jews is the norm here. Through comradery and traditional role indoctrination we will take on the challenge…


  7. Peter Quint
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    I remember that fight, the only reason Cooney lost was because they were greedy. If Cooney had been brought along naturally, and developed his skills he would have won. Instead, he felt humiliated and quit boxing forever. The fault lies with Victor Vitale, the trainer.

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:16 am | Permalink


      Cooney was 25 or 26 when he fought Holmes. I agree that had he waited a couple years before fighting him, he would have had a better chance, but it is debatable how much Cooney would have improved in the meantime. On the other hand, Holmes’ post-1982 decline might have made the difference. The Cooney fight was definitely the high water mark of Holmes’ career. After that, he was never quite so dominant against the top guys.

      And yes, you can blame their taking the fight when they did on “greed.” But let’s be fair. Cooney made $10 million. Suppose he made the decision to wait and mature and then got injured or lost a fight, forever ruining his chances to earn that kind of prize. In hindsight, I agree that perhaps they should have waited. On the other hand, I don’t blame them for taking the fight when they did.

  8. T
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Footballer, boxer, cellist, and basically founded the Las Vegas symphony orchestra. Argentine born italian.

    My dad turned me onto his cello stuff, as dad’s a big fan, but he could fight, too.

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:22 am | Permalink

      That is very interesting! It reminds me that the 1960s Italian middleweight champ Nino Benvenuti loved classical music – as does Nikolai Valuev.

  9. Dov
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    I don’t follow any pro-sports, including fighting, so I found this article very informative.

    My view on racial athletic abilities is this: Blacks almost invariably outperform those of every other race because of both evolutionary pressures in the harsh climates of Africa and, in the case of Blacks in the Western Hemisphere, selective breeding for size and strength. If the European slaves taken by Arab traders had been bred meticulously instead of mass-castrated, it’s very likely that there would be a subset of the White population that rivaled Black Americans in athletic ability.

    In any event, while I’m not a racial supremacist, I do think that Whites enjoy a relatively good balance between athletic and intellectual ability. East-Asians possess superior intelligence, but tend to be less physically impressive, apparently even by their own standards (almost all of the East-Asian women I know have a particular attraction to White men). In contrast, Blacks have terrific athletic abilities (which, of note, do *not* correlate with better overall health; they suffer from higher rates of diabetes, obesity, and cardiovascular disease), but obviously also possess intellectual abilities significantly below the average and median.

    Whites, in my opinion, have the best balance between strengths of mind and body.

    • Realist
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 2:32 am | Permalink

      Strength of mind is paramount.

    • Leon
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 6:10 am | Permalink

      European slaves in the Muslim world weren’t mass castrated, that was only done to Black slaves. In fact, part of the reason you can still see many White-looking Turks today is because of the inflow of European slaves and converts during the Middle Ages.

      As for Blacks outperforming Whites in athletic ability, that’s a gross oversimplification. Blacks dominate in certain fields but are outclassed by Whites in many others, including swimming, weightlifting, shot-put, etc. In fact, despite what pop culture may have led us to believe, it seems Whites are actually naturally more gifted than other races when it comes to upper body strength, we just don’t have a culture which promotes our strength and fitness in this day and age.

      The fact is that the climates of Africa are not harsh, from an evolutionary perspective, they’re the original environments of the bipedal apes that became humans. In contrast, Europe, with its narrow valleys, mountainous obstacles, and devastating winters presented a much harder challenge to early human ancestors, which may account for the better organizational skills and intellect of Europeans (as well as other northern Eurasians). In Africa, food was relatively plentiful and the climate warm all year round, which meant that Africans did not need to invent more energy-saving methods of hunting. As a result, Africans continued to rely on their stamina when hunting down animals, which is why they excel in sports which require speed and stamina. Of course, you’re right that selective breeding during slavery played a large role as well.

      • Dov
        Posted September 23, 2016 at 9:43 am | Permalink

        Thanks for correcting my assumptions about the castrations.

        Much of Africa does, however, experience both heat and a relative scarcity of fresh water. This would certainly exert an evolutionary effect on the natives regarding development of stamina and endurance. Of course, this effect would have been compounded by Africans’ weaker intellectual abilities, and consequent reliance upon brawn and speed to compensate.

  10. Benjamin
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Dominic Cruz (UFC champion) wouldn’t look out of place in Tipperary. He beat Johnson a few years ago. Silva was on steroids and has tarnished his reputation. As for boxing, didn’t that Norwegian documentary a few years ago (I think Lynn appeared in it) state that the vast majority of boxing champions were white? Maybe they were lumping Latinos in with whites. African boxers are a rarity. I don’t think you can put that all down to a lack of resources. They have produced some quality kick boxers in the past but I cannot think of one quality boxer from the dark continent.

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:30 am | Permalink

      Benjamin, agree about Cruz. I’m a fan of his. Love the articulate trash talk. You’re right that black Africa produces few great boxers. My guess is that they lack quality trainers and facilities. But historically, they have some greats, like Dick Tiger, Azumah Nelson, and Ike Quartey.

  11. Posted September 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    “When it came to sports that required running, jumping, and punching, most white guys I knew were willing to concede that we were second best.”

    There lies the problem: the willingness to concede, and the prevailing culture promotes that willingness to concede in Whites. Back when we had a culture of strength in Britain, Tom Cribb destroyed all comers, including the Negro Tom Molineaux, who had been specially trained to beat Cribb. Cribb is immortalised in Lord Byron’s Childe Harold.

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:38 am | Permalink

      David, not sure if I agree. For example, suppose we turn the tables and consider a world in which blacks “refused to concede” their inferiority to whites in chess. Would that make them any better or give them a better chance of besting us? Hardly.

      Sure, an indomitable attitude would help improve whites in a lot of sports. But that’s no replacement for athletic ability which people are simply born with, in my opinion.

  12. T
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    A story that goes here, about a lesser known fighter:

    I consider Greeks white, the white ones. He’s lighter skinned than my russkie/german/swiss ass.

    Interesting story how he got there, as I used to know him. He was hanging out by the liquor store and tat shop, as a teen, in the shit neighborhood of LA he lived in with his folks. Couple darkie fools tried to rob the liquor store. He knocked em both out. LA Times sportswriter saw the blip about that in the news and tracked him down and got him into a gym.

  13. Posted September 22, 2016 at 12:28 pm | Permalink


    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:45 am | Permalink

      Hi James, You’re right. I mean to say they dominate *American* boxing, as will attest. My mistake. Thanks for the correction.

  14. T
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    I had to deal with Larry Holmes as a bar patron in 91 when he was a coked up nuisance. He wasn’t a winner for long.

  15. Andrew
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I think that for the staged fights, Africans have a physiological advantage, with longer arms, thicker bones and 2/3 quick-twitch muscle-fibers (Europeans have 1/3, with 2/3 being slow-twitch). African champion fighters are quite over-represented based on population.

    There are 100,000 years separating the races, and a strong argument could be made that Africans are a different species than Europeans (there are 3 species of Zebras and Grizzly bears are a different species from Polar bears though both interbreed in the wild). In an ideal world, Africans and Europeans would be completely separate, including in sports contests.

    It is unfortunate that fighting sports are used to judge the value of Africans vs Europeans. East Asians are woefully under-represented as champions in fighting sports, also due to physiological differences. Yet their racial confidence does not seem to be affected by this. This is a poor measure for us to use, because it is weighted against us.

    Our advantage is our intelligence and creativity, which is nullified in staged fighting as the tactics, training, etc. devised by Europeans are transmitted to Africans. In any contest requiring endurance, intelligence and creativity, Europeans would naturally and easily dominate Africans in an embarrassing manner.

  16. Raokenx
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    I’ve been a boxing fan for a long time: Currently the Europeans are doing very, very well.

    Heavyweights- Alexander Povetkin, Tyson Fury, Wladimir Klitschko are some of the top names- many more are up an coming like Sergey Kuzmin or Teslenko

    Cruiserweight- Ukrainian olympic Gold medalist Oleksander Usyk (10-0) just won the title. He is so skilled that likely he will have to move to heavyweight.

    Light heavyweight- Sergey Kovalev from Russia is the current #1 ranked. He has a dominating, swarming style- very fun to watch. Also Ukrainians Oleksander Gvozdyk and Vyacheslav Shabranskyy are very skilled.

    Super Middleweight- Callum Smith from England is currently undefeated, and set for a title shot if he continues to win

    Middleweight- Names like Saunders, Andy Lee, and Maciej Suliecki are all top 10 guys.

    Super Welterweight- Dominated by Mexican Canelo Alvarez, who is of alleged Irish descent.

    Welterweight- Dominated by non-Europeans.

    Super Lightweight- Viktor Postol and Eduard Troyanovsky are two top 10’s

    Lightweight- Dejan Zlaticanin, undefeated top 10’er from Montenegro- very exciting and powerful

    Super Featherweight- Ukrainian Vasyl Lomachenko. 2 time Olympic Gold Medalist, and arguably the most skillful boxer on the list- recommend watching.

    Featherweight- Carl Frampton from Ireland is the current #1 ranked fighter (and undefeated)

    Super-bantamweight- Scott Quigg from England is the current #1 ranked. Recently losing to Carl Frampton.

    Whites are currently doing extremely well in boxing. Dispelling the myth that we aren’t good fighters or aren’t as good as blacks are. This is a wonderful time for us to keep up with boxing!

    • Posted September 22, 2016 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

      At lightweight, you missed out Anthony Crolla and Terry Flanagan, both White British, who hold versions of the world title. Flanagan is also unbeaten.

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 10:50 am | Permalink

      Raokenx, I agree!

  17. Ghetto Tarzan
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    One aspect of boxing that few people consider is maturation rates of the different races. Whites mature at a slower rate than blacks. In Eastern European countries, white fighters are allowed to mature. In the states, white fights don’t get that opportunity because black fighters break away from the pack much earlier. Resources are funneled into training black fighters who display early physical maturation. I don’t think that explains the disparity entirely, but it’s one aspect that often goes overlooked. The psychological aspect is also very important. Eastern Europeans aren’t inundated with as much propaganda as American or Western European fighter.

    • T
      Posted September 22, 2016 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

      When I knew Thoos, that is why he primarily trained in German gyms. Wasn’t much of a place for a white in American gyms.

      • Ghetto Tarzan
        Posted September 22, 2016 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

        I know from experience coaching youth sports that white athletes are often pasted over the more physically mature blacks. A black twelve year old can be very different in terms of maturity than his white counterpart. The draw back in choosing the black kid over the white is that the blacks have a very difficult time understanding even the most basic fundamentals.

    • M.A
      Posted October 1, 2016 at 8:11 am | Permalink

      I agree. In the old days–pre ’60’s, a fighter might have to fight 50 or 60 bouts before he even got a smell of a title shot. White guys had plenty of time to mature.

  18. Skald Sigfusson
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    I wonder how much damage the boxing gloves prevent to the opponent?

    I know that the reason they are much bigger is for the support of the one punching and not the one being punched. The padding preserves the hands and leaves the opponent more likely to get hit harder in later rounds due to the boxers hands and wrists staying unbroken.

    Have a boxing match between the best striker in UFC and a boxer sans gloves and see what happens…

    • T
      Posted September 22, 2016 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

      Gloves create more head injuries. Gloveless fighters gravitate more towards body, than head, because if you hit somebody’s skull hard, you break hands. Bare knuckles fighters don’t hit head shots as hard as fighters with gloves, for that reason. Many have argued for getting rid of gloves to reduce injury.

  19. joseph Curwen
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    The myth of black superiority in sports is just that, a myth. Blacks have more visibility in sports media, and that’s the reason most white people think they are somehow superior. There are more examples in boxing and MMA: Nikolai Valuev, Bob Fitzsimmons, Fedor Emelenianko, Mirko Crocop, Semmy Schilt and the list goes on…

    About strenght, just look at the Strongest Man competition, they are almost entirely white.

  20. Sam
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    You might check out James Lafond. He writes on this sort of thing:

    For a while boxing was dominated by black men as whites took on the middle class values of the new rich and left masculine rituals to the lower classes. If Evola were alive I am sure we would meet on common ground over this point after I explained to him that the value of boxing as an art was the fact that it could be won in a crude, unskilled manner and therefore forces the intelligent fighter to ascend to the highest levels of disciplined adaptation in order to prevail over the unskilled brute. The foundation of modern boxing in Britain was an adaptation of a delicate form of civilian sword dueling to the question of wrestling, and became an art by which highly trained punchers—using fencing principals—might defeat more powerful grapplers.

    The fact that one such as Evola would miss such key spiritual components in the foundation European Martial Art, troubled me enough to take on the subject of the European Martial Ethos in its entirety.

    Indeed, at the time Evola wrote this piece, when forced government integration in America was happening side-by-side with a temporary black domination of boxing, it seemed a no brainer to link the two.

    The following links establish the post-modern reality that the disgustingly materialistic black American culture he described in Negrified America, has succeeded in emasculating the black race as surely as the middle class values of the American, Anglo-Protestant, liberal elite has emasculated white American manhood.

    With the playing field level—in terms of forced decadence—we see the following standings among top heavyweight boxers:

    The top 4 boxing slots go to men of European nationality, a group who dominates the top 10 with six to 4 slots over mixed-race and African descent fighters.

    And among top heavyweight MMA fighters:

    As with boxing, the UFC, the cream of the MMA leagues, has its top 4 heavyweights listed as men of European descent, with a European black in the 5th slot, followed by 6 more white men, a Polynesian, and a mixed race Brazilian. Only 2 of the top 20 UFC heavy combatants are of significant African descent, with one of the remainder being mixed race and one Polynesian. It seems that fighting is still the province of the race that conquered the world between 1500 and 1905.

    Once again reality scoffs at the common modern notion that physical combat and athletic dominance are the province of people from the lowest classes, most primitive populations and darkest skins. Like all forms of combat, fighting without weapons is the province of the disciplined mind, which may come in any genetic form, but tends to rise most significantly along the Indo-European Martial Culture Trajectory.

  21. Madison Pinchot
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    That’s a very interesting point about smaller gloves favouring whites.

    It makes me wonder if eventually certain forces will move to have the gloves made heavier in UFC, thus disadvantaging whitey.

    It’s also probably worth noting that in classical physical education which reached its peak in the 1910s, there were three key areas:
    1.Restorative Arts (Structure, Posture, Orthopedic Gymnastics, Safety)
    2.Pedagogy (Sports, Theory, Games, Dance, Play
    and finally
    2.Martial (Self/National Defense)
    Between about the 1880s and 1920 whites were in the best physical condition they would ever be in the U.S, largely due to gymnastic systems brought over by German and Swedish immigrants.

    Unfortunately (((they))) didn’t like this, so you can see in the 20s the mainstream media began to attack proper physical culture and instead pushed for sports(which has more spectators than participants and incidentally promotes muscular imbalance). So even the golden age of boxing was unfortunately the bronze age of white physical culture.

    I’d recommend checking out Dr. Ed Thomas’ work for more information on the subject.

  22. Bernie
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Slight quibble. Whites like Gerrie Coetzee, Franz Botha, Tommy Morrison and Francisco Damiani held heavyweight belts in the 80s and 90s, though none were as dominant as Holyfield, Tyson and Lewis. All were tough guys who were in the same league as Pinklon Thomas, Frank Bruno, Ray Mercer, Michael Moorer and the like.

  23. Bernie
    Posted September 22, 2016 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Great article! Whites hold 3 of the 8 UFC belts. White Hispanics (look ’em up) Eddie Alvarez and Dominic Cruz hold 2. Black hold 3 but white man Steven Thompson will almost certainly KO the mediocre Tyron Woodley for the welterweight belt in a few months.

    • joseph Curwen
      Posted September 22, 2016 at 11:08 am | Permalink

      Technically speaking, Alvarez is not 100% white.

    • Spencer Quinn
      Posted September 23, 2016 at 11:01 am | Permalink

      Thanks! Whites also have belts in other organizations like Bellator and WSOF, as I am sure you know. As for Thompson, that all depends on his chin, which I’m not sure has been tested. Woodley can wrestle and he can throw bombs. If Thompson is careful and utilizes his kicks on the outside and is on point with his takedown defense, I predict he’ll stop Woodley in 3 or 4 – despite a few hairy moments due to Woodley’s speed and power.

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