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The Alternative South

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Editor’s Note:

This is the text of Hunter Wallace’s address at the Atlanta Forum on January 28, 2017, which will appear in the forthcoming Counter-Currents anthology The Alternative Right

The crisis began around late 2014 when a year and a half of public rallies by the League of the South had begun to take its toll. We had spent the previous two years building up an amazing real world network of activists across the South. There was nothing else like it on the American Far Right. We were holding monthly rallies, annual national conferences, state conferences, private events, etc.
Believe me, it was fun taking it into the real world after spending a decade or more camped out in the anonymity of cyberspace. We learned that our enemies in Dixie were not as organized as we had imagined them to be. We learned that doxxing is not as problematic here as it is elsewhere. We learned that various issues like opposition to immigration and refugee resettlement were broadly popular in our region. In hindsight, I think you could say that we saw the Trump movement coming.

Somewhere along the way, we began attracting women to our movement. It is striking how most of us are married and have young children now. We can’t do the public activism like we used to anymore because our responsibilities have multiplied. If you look at the Far Right as a whole, it is not a problem we should complain about. Whereas White Nationalists have argued about the lack of women in the movement, our wives spend enormous amounts of time talking and networking on Facebook. Women seem to really enjoy the social aspect of our movement that you can’t get by interacting exclusively with anonymous people online. We don’t go to immigration rallies now so much as weddings and baby showers.

Anyway, I look back fondly on 2013 and 2014. I got married, had a son and met lots of great people who share my views all across the South. That was fun. That was valuable. That was a good investment. We needed an institution that would enable us to propagate our views, coordinate our energies, build real world networks, challenge the status quo in public space and overcome the well-known weaknesses (i.e., the autism and extremism) of a purely online movement.

At the same time, we eventually came to see the limitations of this approach. It was easy for the opposition to violate our civil rights and knock down billboards which were very expensive to put up. It was impossible to keep up the pace of the rallies—too expensive, too much traveling, we hit a ceiling, etc. More than anything else though, the constant bickering on Facebook over small points of disagreement and the willingness of some to tread into violent territory which made others uncomfortable began to fracture the movement. What’s the point of spending so much time recruiting ordinary people at public rallies only to squander it by alienating them with extremism on social media?

During the first half of 2015, the pace of our public rallies began to slow down. Several leaders including Michael Cushman dropped out of the League of the South. That was the case until the Dylann Roof mass shooting in Charleston ignited a campaign of cultural genocide across the South. We lost the Confederate Battle Flag at the South Carolina Statehouse. The Southern Heritage movement and the League were briefly reenergized. We held more rallies than ever before, but eventually the news cycle rolled on, the enemy was repulsed, enthusiasm faded, and burn out returned as a major problem.

In the midst of the reaction to Charleston, Donald Trump announced he was running for president on June 16, 2015. Everything was about to change. The inconceivable started to happen. 

Donald Trump Changes America

Southern Nationalists weren’t prepared for Donald Trump.

We are so accustomed to thinking regionally, but the anger and alienation that we saw at our protests in the South was national in scope. It was even global. No one was even trying to summon all that anger and alienation and channel it against the liberal establishment.

How should we feel about this? We have been too narrowly focused on the Confederacy. We never entertained the possibility of a successful nationalist and populist revolt in our lifetimes, another Andrew Jackson, put into the White House by a MARS coalition led by the South. The Populists had mounted a fierce challenge in the 1890s and even briefly captured the Democratic Party, but they were beaten back. We have just witnessed the most improbable election since Jackson’s victory in 1828.

In light of our own history, we shouldn’t be surprised. It actually makes sense. Radical Reconstruction changed the nature of our people. Previously, the South had been much less coherent, which was one the major reasons we lost the War Between the States, but living under the boot of radicalism changed America. The differences between the lowland and upland South faded into the Solid South of the Jim Crow era. White Northerners lost interest in pushing Radical Reconstruction. The Yankee mind of the late 19th and early 20th centuries turned instead to imperialism and commercial progress.

As hard as it is to believe, eight years of living under President Barack Hussein Obama may have had a similar effect. The experiment seems to have cooled the enthusiasm of non-Southerners for “social justice.” Maybe it was all the Black Lives Matter rioting in the streets? Whatever the cause, a critical mass of White Northerners in rural areas started voting a lot more like rural White Southerners and changed the world. The racial and cultural gap between coastal urbanites and interior ruralites has widened to such a degree that it has become the primary polarity of American politics.

I’ve occasionally written about this over the years. We have seen Upper South states like Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, and West Virginia become much more Republican. The same process has now moved across the Mason-Dixon line and into the Rust Belt and Midwest. The Left has demonized and written off the White working class. President Donald Trump is the result. 

Living Through History

When Donald Trump began to steamroll over his Republican rivals during the “Summer of Trump,” I dropped everything else I was doing and started blogging about it. I sensed that something historic was unfolding in this country. I wanted to capture it and be a part of it.

This was not because I had changed my convictions. As always, I remain a proud Southern Nationalist, but there were a lot of exciting developments going on outside the movement. Suddenly, the Alt-Right was rising like a sleeping giant that had awakened after a long slumber. I found this extremely fascinating because I had come to Southern Nationalism from the world of the Alt-Right in 2011. The Alt-Right’s focus on identity raised awareness of my Southern ethnic and cultural identity.

Unlike other Southern Nationalists, I backed Trump to the end, voted for Trump in the primary and general election, and preferred a Trump victory. I was delighted when he won the presidency. In my view, Trump was weakening mainstream conservatism, undermining taboos, polarizing the electorate, and mainstreaming a diluted form of populism and nationalism. He was having an impact like Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul, but on a vastly greater scale. Just from experience alone, I knew it would redound to our benefit. I saw Trumpism as a necessary stepping stone on a much longer journey.

The Tea Party was another stepping stone. It looks like nothing more than silly mainstream conservatism in hindsight, but it too was part of a long-term process. The populist wing of the Tea Party moved to Breitbart and eventually pushed the Right in a more nationalist direction. We need to be more historically conscious because one day President Trump will be gone, we will still be here, and something else probably even more radical will emerge as the successor of Trumpism.

As with Jacksonian America, this moment too will pass sooner than we think. It is an episode, not the season finale. We’ve got to remain historically aware and take a longer view. 

The Rise of the Alt-Right

2015 and 2016 were breakout years for the Alt-Right.

Southern Nationalists have a lot to learn from why and how this happened. The Alt-Right aggressively pushed itself into the national conversation and by doing so reaped a windfall of publicity and converts. Southern Nationalists were consumed by bickering on Facebook. The Alt-Right was pragmatic, worked within the system to promote its own ends, and rallied behind President Donald Trump. Southern Nationalists, who are convinced the system is hopelessly beyond reform and that they should have nothing do with it, were ideologically inflexible and sat on the sidelines.

The Alt-Right through its links to Gamergate and the Manosphere grasped the importance of memes, swarming social media, particularly Twitter, to discourse poison or push a Narrative. The Alt-Right moved and planted its flag on Twitter and learned how to roll with the news cycle. In contrast, Southern Nationalists retreated further into their own bubble and away from their audience. Southern Nationalists were becoming more militant, more open to violence, more alienated and thus more divided during this same period. The Alt-Right understood the appeal of being edgy, having fun, and smashing taboos to a younger audience. Southern Nationalists were becoming more dour, pessimistic, and angry. Overall, they were in a really sour mood, and that had a negative impact on the movement.

For the Alt-Right, the most striking development of 2016 was the rise of the Alt-Lite brands. I’ve been extremely critical of these brands many of whom I believe are financially motivated hucksters, but they are not without their virtues. We can still learn a lot from their success. First and foremost, there is Breitbart which transformed the Right and the entire American political spectrum. There are also brands like PJW and Cernovich who amassed huge followings by skillfully exploiting social media to reach new audiences. There is a lot here we ought to study and adapt for our own purposes. 

The Alt-South

Southern Nationalism has become a bit unglued.

We haven’t adapted to the Trump era. The movement is being pulled in different directions: some want to move closer to our people, as they have moved toward us under Trump, while others want to move further away. I’m here today to share with you a vision which I have named the Alternative South. This is actually a project which I have talked about with Michael Cushman many times over the years which never came to fruition. Strangely enough, we unconsciously began working on it years ago.

The Alt-South isn’t a membership organization. It is inspired by the relationship of White Nationalism to the Alt-Right. Basically, the Alt-South would be a space for everyone in Dixie who isn’t some kind of leftist or mainstream conservative (i.e., nationalists, populists, reactionaries) to come together to discuss our past, present, and common future. Southern Nationalists would be at the core of the Alt-South. The Atlanta Forum could become our annual gathering similar to the role the NPI conference plays with the Alt-Right. Instead of narrowing our influence and alienating people who are somewhat sympathetic, the idea here would be to reach out to all kinds of different rightwing tendencies as well as average Trump supporters and imbue them with a renewed sense of Southern national consciousness.

The Alt-South would be a ton of work:

  • From our experience with the League of the South, we would love to continue the real-world meetups, networking, and conferences. There is no reason why these meetups or conferences have to be public. We don’t have to host public demonstrations to take our movement offline. In fact, it would probably make more sense to host several private gatherings in major Southern metro areas to get the movement started. We’ve already tested a model of this at the Augusta meetup.
  • There’s no reason why we couldn’t host public events like the AmRen conference. James Edwards has suggested to me organizing another conference like the one in Memphis in 2014. I’m sure there are plenty of people who would love for us to do that who would volunteer to provide the security.
  • Many of us have already gone public with our beliefs. There is no reason why we couldn’t continue the demonstrations at a far slower pace. They were a useful entry point into Southern Nationalism. We have to learn from our mistakes though and avoid burnout. We’re also living in a different era with the Trump administration in Washington being broadly sympathetic to many of our issues. Instead of holding our own protests, maybe we could engage in some counterprotesting for a change?
  • There is no reason why we can’t continue to publish deconstructionist e-books. I have in mind here Michael Cushman’s Our Southern Nation and Paul Kersey’s The Truth About Selma. We need more books in this vein about a variety of subjects. I highly recommend both of these books. You can find and purchase them through the OD sidebar. We need to build our own canon and make it available to newcomers.

This probably sounds familiar to you. It is what we have been doing for a number of years now. How would the Alt-South be any different from Southern Nationalism?

  • Specifically, we need to borrow the meme warfare and swarming from the Alt-Right. I was shocked by the efficacy of trolling in 2016. Sadly, the golden age of Twitter trolling is over, but we can still manage without the aggression, the targeting and the hard edge racial language that gets our social media accounts banned. The #DraftOurDaughters campaign is one example that was very effective.
  • From the Alt-Lite brands, there are many lessons to be learned. We need to look at Breitbart as a model of what we should be doing. We need to pool our resources, organize as our own company, generate enormous amounts of content and roll with the news cycle on Twitter. We need elbow our way into the national conversation. That’s what we are attempting to do right now with AltRight.com
  • We need to get into punditry, build platforms and learn how to monetize our content. We need to build more attractive websites to propagate a discourse about Southern ethnic and cultural identity.
  • Perhaps the most important thing we need to be doing is mastering and building up our presence on social media platforms: Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Periscope. The Rebel Yell podcast is a great example of the content we ought to be producing. Ideally, we would have the means to distribute our content (blogs, podcasts, e-books) to large receptive audiences. The Alt-Lite brands now have the power to do this with a few tweets. That’s worth thinking about.
  • We need to be far more ambitious and serious about our writing and podcasting. The success of BREXIT and President Trump should inspire us to believe that the future we want to achieve is possible.
  • We need to be looking for nationalist and populist candidates in state and local races—the Southern equivalents of Paul Nehlen—that we can rally behind and support.

In such a way, we will blend the Alt-Right and Southern Nationalism into the Alt-South. We will take the strengths from both and try to minimize the weaknesses. 

Occidental Dissent Will Be A Model

Just watch what I am doing at Occidental Dissent.

I’m already in the process of implementing everything I have said here and more. I haven’t spelled it out, but many of you have no doubt noticed the recent changes. I’m confident that Occidental Dissent as a platform of the Alt-South will explode and reach never before seen heights.

Southern Nationalism will thrive during the Trump years as we organize and build bridges with Dixie’s Deplorables. Things are not nearly as bad as so many believe. Southerners aren’t going back to sleep. They’re edged much closer to our way of thinking. The polarization is going to reach never before seen heights as The Resistance begins in earnest. We will live through this, prosper, and come out on the other side like our Southern Nationalist forebears in Jackson and Polk’s America.

This is not yet our time, but we are closer to it than ever before. Thank you! Deo Vindice! 

Note: Let there be no confusion on the matter of security. The recent events by the so-called antifa in Washington, DC and Atlanta continue to illustrate why a security force is necessary. The Left’s open embrace of political violence also makes me wonder if this will all end in bloodshed after all. They are the ones initiating violence and systematically attempting to violate the rights of their political opponents. We’re not the ones doing this and the Trump administration needs to come down hard on them.

Also, I’m extremely happy with what I have seen from the Trump administration so far. I think President Trump has the potential to be another Andrew Jackson. I think he is doing a lot of good things, but like Presidents Jackson and Polk, I am not sure what that will lead to 20 years from now. As with Jackson and Polk, the Northeast has never been known for supporting American Greatness.

Source: http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/01/30/the-alternative-south/

 

 

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11 Comments

  1. Posted March 2, 2017 at 3:16 am | Permalink

    Brad/Fade/Hunter:

    When the paramilitaries forming under your former leader Dr. Michael Hill are referring to ZOG/Babylon and its ruling jews and anglo-semites as “Edomite-Khazarians” they are actually Christian Identiity — and not just OF a Christian Identity. And yes, they may have some different name like “Indomitables”, but just like the militia movement before the suburban whiggers insisted on calling their paramilitary clubs “constitutional militias” and buying SKS’s for urban niggers, most of them were really nothing more than rural Christian Identity / Klan survivalist groups run by veterans. I should know — I founded two “militias” along with other Klansmen and CI types here in Southwest Missouri just after Waco. Now there are three or four times as many of these groups stockpiling beans, bullets, and bandages who call and are called “survivalists” or “preppers”, or even “doomers” — anythang but a militia, which term is used only by ZOGbots and/or fuktards. Nowadaze a “Klansman” or Grand Dragon is some ZOGbot fuktard sporting a fuchia or lavender robe who is dying to hand it over to some 400-lb nigger who wants to get on PBS to denounce “haet” like I seen last month.

    So Brad, you just try to bring in “pagans” or freemasons or even CreaTards to some of your rural types who found the Council of Conservative Citizens too much like the county-seat Chamber of Commerce types who betrayed their Klan grandfathers and see how fast you get called a ZOGbot fuktard sell-out. Not recommended.

    Like you and Dr. Greg Johnson, back in 1993 after Waco and until after the OKC bombing ZOG false-flag operation, I wanted to use the militia movement for political ends. Two days after OKC, me and this other local militia leader had six local survivalist leaders representing 120-160 men tell us that they were not going above-ground to join our militia. I was disappointed. I was also wrong. By early 1997 I myself pulled the plug on the less than a dozen or so left. When Y2Kaos went bust, there was nothing left except a few ZOGbots snitching on what had largely gone underground with nothing left aboveground but a few head of ZOGbot and fuktard.

    So by all means enjoy the fame and [mis]fortune of the Alt-Right, Alt-Light, Alt-South, Alt-NorthWest, Alt-White and . . . Alt-kike. Enjoy the publicity, enjoy the fame, succumb to the flattery of those you don’t know, actually believe that you are “dangerous men.” I’ve been in the bubble myself before. Luckily I never trusted it to last or wanted it to last either.

    You have gotten pretty good at blogging. By all means write your book. Use the Internuts and social media to amass you herds of ass. I fail to see how you think that in an age of decline and degeneracy that you think that you can form a regional or even a state or even county-wide republican form of government.

    Also, there are whispers concerning Richard Spencer and other “leaders” whom the $PLC, the ADL, and the jewsmedia has anointed. But let me clue you into a real nest of jew and mamzer and ZOGbot fuktards:

    http://www.freedomfront.org/board-of-directors/

    “Foundation for the Marketplace of Ideas” <—- aka ZOGbot Poverty [F]Law Center

    The members of this Board of Directors are Attorney Kyle Bristow, his law clerk Bryan Reo, Attorney Brett A Klimkowsky, James Edwards, Mike Enoch, Thom Robb's lawyer son, William Johnson.

    Bryan Reo took down a dozen of my Church web pages because I outed it as a mongrel homosexual working with a former jew jailer named William Finck that murdered a Puerto Rican prisoner in the Jersey City jail both pretending to be Christian Identity pastors. Bryan Reo sued me for $10.75 million in federal court, lost that bogus case and now is suing myself, Roxie, and my Church in Lake County Ohio. I in turn intend to counter-sue in federal district court all of these jew and mamzer and fuktard ZOGbots and their ZOG false-flag operation for abuse of legal process and violation of my and my Church's freedom of speech and religion.

    http://www.whitenationalist.org/forum/showthread.php?1614

    Our entire bowel Movement is nothing but jews & mongrels & ZOGbots & perverts & idiots. Trying to form anything substantial and lasting out of such material is doomed to failure, prison and death.

    The purpose of any "intellectual" in our bowel Movement should be to encourage the inevitable civil war, the skinning out of traitors and the ethnic cleansing of non-whites. And for now that means to support "lone tards" who actually listen to what we say and write and do something and not run away from what we have said and written until the rising tide of collapse makes us seem prophetic.

    I have never doubted the survival of YHWH's Servant Nation of Aryan Christian Israel or the destruction of the Mighty Evil Empire of ZOG/Babylon the Third and Final. My only question is whether it will be of Ten or Twenty million ex-whiggers ruled over by Ten Thousand Warlords under theocratic petty military dictatorships.

    Any doubt as to why every single one of us potential warlords love watching The Walking Dead?

    Hail Victory!!!

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    Ten Thousand Warlords Project
    http://whitenationalist.org

  2. Norman
    Posted February 26, 2017 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    This article points to an inherent obstruction to Southern White Nationalism: Identification with the Confederacy. The courage and bravery of Southern whites, the cause of Southern White Nationalism is not to be devalued or diluted, but Confederate imagery is a unnecessary burden. It’s a practical problem, with a practical solution.

    Symbolically, the effectiveness of trolling, triggering and meme wars of the Alt Right depends upon a detached relationship to imagery. Pepe is the prime example. Confederate identity elements carry non-detachable meaning, however.

    Politically and historically, identification with the Confederacy also predisposes the movement to factional disunity. Intentionally not, the Confederacy effectively detached itself from its own past, so there is no easily perceivable context of a continuum, a once-great thing, prior to secession and defeat. Continued identification with that defeat is deadly.

    (I am talking about perception, not history… but let’s be grown up about it. The war was waged for the maintenance and benefit of a landowning elite — dare I say the 1%? — whose profit derived not only from slave labor, but from transnational investment and sales. Everybody seems to have gotten rich — except the overwhelming majority of southern whites who took it on the chin. The landowners wouldn’t even grow food for the army, but rather sent troops to take it from the populace. After the war, racial pride was promoted cynically by that very same elite to keep them in clover, to maintain wealth disparity during reconstruction and after. Sound familiar? Today it might be “Confederate Lives Matter!”)

    For any Southern movement, the Stars-n-Bars are a cat’s paw in the wrong direction, with predictable results such as the infighting and alienation described in the article. Whereas the Tea Party was outright hijacked by K-Street, any Southern movement has a built-in kill switch as long as it enshrines the heraldry of defeat. The Karl Roves (and Sonny Purdues) of the world understand this.

    From what Wallace writes, that’s not what the Alt South movement is anyway. This is a very encouraging article.

    If you can jettison the symbolism and move beyond it, you might expect that violent, unorganizable, revanchist, doomed factions will no longer obstruct your efforts. They’ll hate you of course, but that will be good press, good advertising. No guilt, no apologies to anyone.

    Radical idea? Yes. These are radical times. Set your in-house crackpots adrift with what they value most, and carry on your fight in this century.

    • Posted February 27, 2017 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

      A few points here:

      1.) First, we distinguish between Southern Nationalism, Neo-Confederacy, and the Alt-South.

      – Neo-Confederacy is the idea that the Confederate States of America can and ought to be restored in the 21st century. It is identified purely with the Confederacy. Most of the Neo-Confederates identify with what is called the “Heritage movement.”

      – Southern Nationalism is a modern day ethnonationalist movement that takes into account our entire history as a people. It is not focused on the Confederacy. Surely, that’s an important part of our heritage, but we are motivated by contemporary issues.

      – The Alt-South is a space where people who are not mainstream conservatives can discuss the future of the South. It is similar to the Alt-Right/White Nationalist relationship. The Alt-Right is broader than White Nationalism which is a component of it.

      2.) Second, the Confederacy was the result of a metapolitical revolution that occurred in the South in the antebellum era. From the 1830s, the abolitionist challenge caused many of the South’s most important figures to break with liberalism. There were journals like the Southern Literary Messenger, Southern Quarterly Review and DeBow’s Review which critiqued and rejected American liberalism. There was a revolutionary vanguard in the South. I could continue, but it will suffice to say here that their work parallels our own in many ways and is of interest to us.

      3.) Third, I don’t see why a defeat is necessarily a problem. The South’s defeat in the War Between the States gave rise to the Lost Cause mythology. For generations, Southern identity was stronger after the war than it had been before an during the war. In fact, the South’s view of the war eventually triumphed in the nation as a whole in the 1920s and 1930s. It wasn’t until the 1950s and 1960s that historians challenged the Dunning School and began to reverse this. Even today, the South alone maintains a strong regional identity because of its peculiar history.

      4.) There are some myths here:

      – It is true that slavery was a factor in causing secession and the war, but the more important point is how the imprint of slavery had molded the culture of the South. It created a sectional divide which has persisted to the present day. We’ve never shared the same culture as the Eastern United States and the founders of the Confederacy recognized that and wisely sought to create a more homogeneous nation-state.

      – If you go back and read the case for secession, you will find that Southerners like George Fitzhugh wrote extensively about the East’s leveling culture, and how it differed from our culture. They predicted the future course of American history. It wasn’t so much about slavery as it was the perception of a long term threat emanating from the East. “Black Republicanism” was associated with other radical causes like “Womans Rightsism” and “Free Love” and socialism and black supremacy which Southerners believed would triumph in the aftermath of abolition.

      5.) Finally, I am not interested in reviving the Confederacy. I happen to think it was a stab at what ought to be done. When Americanism broke down in the 1850s, our Southern ancestors created a new nationalism:

      – There was the State’s Rights constitutional ideology which John C. Calhoun borrowed from the Old Republicans who had been a thorn in Jefferson’s side.

      – There was the new scientific racialism of Samuel Morton and Josiah Nott.

      – There was Sir Walter Scott’s romanticism which revived interest in the Middle Ages. Suddenly, Southerners were obsessed with the culture of honor.

      – There was the embrace of Greco-Roman classical republicanism.

      – There was European romantic nationalism which at the time was all the rage in Ireland, Poland, Bohemia, Hungary, Germany and Italy.

      – There was ethnography which was borrowed from Europe.

      – There was the new sociology inspired by Auguste Comte.

      – There was Thomas Carlyle’s reactionary philosophy.

      All this added up to what has been called the Southern Reactionary Enlightenment of the 1850s. No one has written about the obvious parallels. That is one thing I will be trying to do with the Alt-South project. Everyone knows about the famous generals of the Confederacy but much less is known about the men who got it started and have been neglected by historians.

      • Norman
        Posted February 27, 2017 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

        I appreciate the detailed clarification very much. It’s important to spell out and reiterate these distinctions.

        But there is still a point to be made about perception. There is some challenging imagery, and whatever the intent, it poses a practical dilemma. One component is the finality of defeat within the imagery of the South — as a perception, not as historical interpretation. The perception has to be changed, somehow. Daunting, but not impossible.

        Also, there isn’t much of an analog in all this to the meme wars, trolling, etc., of the Alt Right. As Ted points out (not in these exact words, but I think his meaning is clear, and I agree), it’s a fatal blunder to confuse tactics for strategy.

        Some things that have worked well simply aren’t going to work again. At the moment, we are witnessing an attempted Color Revolution. It is a phase, and by year’s end it will likely have foundered, but not without possibly harsh setbacks for Trump, and for the Alt Right.

        I implore all in earshot to think twice about counter-protest — a risky tactic with little strategic reward. This entire anti-Trump protest-o-sphere is provocation, no matter how alarming and genuine it may seem. Don’t take the bait, no need to engage on someone else’s terms. But, there are ample opportunities for asymmetry, to subvert and misdirect, to amplify and even accelerate the aimlessness and futility of the left’s hysteria.

        Even with such challenges and risks as these, the greatest asset is the here-and-now common sense of white ethno-nationalism. Keep voicing that, and there will be ever more people waking up to it.

  3. GenYES
    Posted February 25, 2017 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Hunter, as an expat Southerner, I have been watching your project for some time, and I am glad to see where your thinking is leading you. Every region needs its own network, and an Alt-South is definitely the way to go – converging with trends in the rest of the Western world, while staking out our own unique identity. This bioregional/biocultural approach is the same trajectory that the Eco-radical Left took a number of years ago, and it makes a tremendous amount of sense. The primary issue I’ve had with Southern Nationalism to date, and the reason I never considered getting involved when I lived in the South, is its commitment to a Christian identity. While I don’t have any desire to stir the pot about religion on this or any other reactionary website, I think there’s a lot we can learn from the Freemasons who nurture a fraternity in which each man must swear to uphold the values of his chosen creed in addition to the shared values of the movement/organization (see Albert Pike’s book Morals and Dogma from the Ancient and Accepted Rite, published in Charleston). There should be room for Christian and heathen alike in the making of the Alt-South. The same should be (and I think is) true in other parts of the US, but it’s a particularly important message in the Southland, where you will have to work especially hard to buck the unsavory stereotypes ingrained in the region as you reboot the nationalist Dixie brand.

    • Posted February 27, 2017 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

      I’m pretty sure there were pagans at the Atlanta Forum. The idea was to create a space where non-mainstream conservatives could meet up annually and discuss the future of the South. We are looking to do something broader than Southern Nationalism.

  4. martin chamberlain
    Posted February 25, 2017 at 6:08 am | Permalink

    I like this very much.

  5. Posted February 24, 2017 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for sharing this, Greg.

    At some point, I need to get around to publishing a book. This would be a great place to start. 🙂

  6. R_Moreland
    Posted February 24, 2017 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Excellent discussion of tactics and strategy. Let’s see more of this!

  7. Greg Johnson
    Posted February 25, 2017 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Ted Sallis, in full embittered, jaundiced old crank mode, comments on Alt Right. Give it a rest Ted. If you can’t say something constructive, try saying nothing at all. Take a look at the stuff from your site that I have seen fit to reprint, and use it as a model.

  8. Ted
    Posted February 25, 2017 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    “Ted Sallis, in full embittered, jaundiced old crank mode, comments on Alt Right. Give it a rest Ted. If you can’t say something constructive, try saying nothing at all. Take a look at the stuff from your site that I have seen fit to reprint, and use it as a model.”

    Greg, you may or may not approve this through moderation, but I will nevertheless point out that perhaps you should share some of my concerns about the broader Alt Right.

    Wallace writes:

    “A ton of people who were Alt-Right or White Nationalists voted for and supported Ron Paul.”

    In a past interview you stated:

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/09/matt-parrott-interviews-greg-johnson/
    “GJ: Yeah, they’ll have sound money for the brown people. That’s what he stands for, and I think that’s madness. It irritates me to no end, and I’ll say it right now. I’m going to write something about this someday, but I’ll just get it out there on the air now. I am going to socially shun any White Nationalist I know from now on if I find out he donates another dime to Ron Paul.”

    A large portion of the current Alt Right are (ex?) libertarian Ron Paul supporters, precisely the types you didn’t want anything to do with. You attitude about that was quite correct – support for Paul is indicative of a mental weakness, poor judgment, and an ideological vacuity that makes such people suspect. The Alt Right was in large part constructed on a foundation of those people you rightfully rejected.

    My point is, and remains, that the Paul thing is indicative of an underlying problem with the Alt Right. I have re-read my analysis and I can’t see anything there that is unfair. I can also point out that you have fairly recently sharply criticized Spencer’s judgement over “Hailgate” (something that I didn’t think was that big a deal, although I agree it did exhibit a bit of poor judgment). These things in general (forget about our different perceptions of specifics like “Hailgate”) are problems. In general, I have supported Spencer and his ideas and I think he’s a sharp guy with a solid future in activism – but the Alt Right is inherently flawed. You can only go so far on millennial snark, trolling, and the like. Unless the Alt Right matures and sharpens up, it’s going to flame out.

    Better sharp criticism from someone like me from the Far Right, who is in broad agreement with the Alt Right, than having those guys go down in flames and take all of us with them. I’m not criticizing for the sake of criticizing. I’m criticizing because I see warning signs and I want the Alt Right to change course before they drive right off the cliff. I’ve seen Far Right projects collapse before (e.g., the implosion of the post-Pierce NA, the hopping of Duke from one failed organization to another, the fizzling out of the EAIF, etc, etc) and it isn’t pretty.

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