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White Pills from Charlottesville

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Greg Johnson and Millennial Woes did a live hangout about the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally this past weekend.

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  1. Hugo
    Posted August 15, 2017 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
  2. Sandy
    Posted August 14, 2017 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    I don’t wish to sound morbid but in this age of the smart phone are there no pictures of the accident scene that claimed the life of the deceased protester, Heather Heyer?

  3. Mike Dolphgren
    Posted August 14, 2017 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    I can’t help but think over and over that there is absolutely no reason at all that KKK and Neo-Nazi larping should be tolerated. Ever. For any reason.

    You love white people and want to advance our interests? Great! Prove it by putting that shit in a dumpster and getting a suit or a nice collared shirt instead. We do ourselves no favor by paying homage to dead, failed movements that are widely loathed and easy rhetorical targets for our enemies.

    The pre-rally torch procession was powerful, amazing, and all around successful for precisely that reason.

    • Lemur
      Posted August 15, 2017 at 2:23 am | Permalink

      Heilgate was the beginning of the end for the alt-right. C’ville is the coup de grace. In the public eye, a bunch of kitchy looking neo nazis marched and people died.

  4. Captain John Charity Spring MA
    Posted August 14, 2017 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Given Trump’s responce about saluting the flag…he’s gotta know it’s a fiction. It’s

  5. Vehmgericht
    Posted August 14, 2017 at 4:10 am | Permalink

    Richard Spencer seems awfully accident prone … he’s not the man to lead a street army, perhaps not the man to lead the movement. The left achieved full strategic surprise at Charlottesville and Spencer’s people walked right into it.

    Now it will be said that the alt-right are not only crypto nazis, but the murderers of a young woman! To guage the reputational damage that flows from that, look to the killing of Jo Cox in the UK. Another such incident will surely see nationalist organisations proscribed … constitution or no.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted August 14, 2017 at 5:07 am | Permalink

      Spencer was not the leader of Unite the Right.

    • curri
      Posted August 14, 2017 at 8:28 am | Permalink

      “To guage the reputational damage that flows from that, look to the killing of Jo Cox in the UK.”

      Brexit still won-that was the pertinent issue at the time.

      • Vehmgericht
        Posted August 14, 2017 at 11:10 am | Permalink

        The result in the UK has been that Nationalist groups are now equated with Islamists — and at least one has been proscribed.

        One must exercise great caution with inflammatory rhetoric and street politics — it is literally playing with fire.

    • Captain John Charity Spring MA
      Posted August 14, 2017 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

      Who remembers Jo Cox?

  6. Ted
    Posted August 14, 2017 at 3:35 am | Permalink

    Thoughts:

    Do not announce in advance, wear uniforms….Yes, I agree. Well organized. Can’t control the optics, should be smaller and more cohesive – agreed, and that’s a major point of my Ragnarok post. I stand in solidarity with the Unite the Right, but, like Greg, believe things could have been done better. “Mania to marginalize themselves “ – couldn’t say it better myself.

    I agree – overcoming. We need to overcome adversity. Can Spencer and Greg Johnson overcome their feud and start working together? That will be a real “white pill.” Spencer and the Alt Right need some input from older, more experienced activists. Ironically enough, folks who attended, or supported, a rally called “Unite the Right” continue to criticize Counter-Currents. Spencer should contact Greg and attempt to solve this problem.

    Also, in the spirit of truth-telling, MW needs to acknowledge that perhaps one reason the Unite the Right event has been associated with the Alt Right is that the Alt Right itself has been giving that impression, see AltRight.com

    Antifa declared as a terrorist organization. Yes, indeed. Who can do that? The “God Emperor” with nary a cross word for Antifa but who denounces “White supremacists?” “America’s Senator” who, while he is not being “beleaguered” by the “God Emperor,” is more interested in marijuana than in leftist violence? That’s who to give your demands to. Good luck with that. Her converted majesty Ivanka says we all don’t belong in American society. That’s the Trumps.

    And if Trump was really the alpha male “shiv-master” of rightist fantasy, he would now be on the rhetorical attack, instead of cowering in the White House like a bullied little fat kid, uttering platitudes to satisfy the bullies, and mulling sacrificing Bannon to appease the bullies.

    “Baked Alaska” – he should sue the city of Charlottesville, and the state of Virginia, and the responsible “leadership.” Maybe he should sue Trump and Sessions as well – we are ultimately responsible for failing to crack down on leftist violence since January. Even when Trump’s own (elderly) supporters are attacked at mainstream Trump rallies he says or does nothing. Absolutely nothing.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted August 14, 2017 at 3:40 am | Permalink

      Ted, if you have actually looked into what Richard Spencer and Daniel Friberg have done to me and to Counter-Currents you will know that there is no possibility that I will ever work with these people. You are engaged in what I call low-information moralizing. Because I can’t help thinking that if you had done your homework, you would know why I think these people are cancer and a danger to anyone who associates with them.

      • Ivan S Klein
        Posted August 14, 2017 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

        Is the cancer and danger of Spencer and Frieberg in any way comparable to the cancer and danger facing White people and our continued existence?

        As someone with a bit of distanced perspective on your disagreement (even though as far as I can tell you are completely in the right), I wish you would reconsider.

        Lets bicker amongst one another after we have taken back our place.

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted August 15, 2017 at 2:44 am | Permalink

          I believe that our cause would be better off without them. They cause more harm than good. We need fewer but better “leaders.”

      • Ted
        Posted August 15, 2017 at 1:59 am | Permalink

        Greg,

        I have followed the whole episode in great detail. I agree that their behavior was unacceptable. I say nothing about Friberg. Forget about him, especially in the American context, he’s nothing. I thought it may have been possible to eventually heal the rift with Spencer, but if that’s not possible, so be it. I won’t mention it again. Spencer does need some grownup advice from someone, or the Alt Right brand is going to continue to muck things up. Maybe he can get it from Taylor.

        On the other hand, if those two individuals are as you say they are, and as they are so closely tied to the Alt Right brand, then that brand needs to be considered a cancer as well.

  7. Posted August 14, 2017 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    Like Blair Peach in Britain during the 1970s, that dead woman attended an activity designed to violently close down a legal activity. Her colleagues were beating individuals with clubs without regard to whether the victims were being beaten to death in blind frenzies of hate. As is generally the case, the Left as a mob were out of control, in a display of mass psychosis. No matter what spin the Left and their zealous backers in the mass media put on it, the violence was initiated by the Left. That is evident even from the film footage of the Left and the mass media. The Left came with clubs, a few of the Right with shields, indicating a difference of intent.

    A Black woman pastor who was an organiser of the Leftist mob claimed to NBC news that the Right threw bottles . She was blatantly lying but went unchallenged. Likewise her claim that clergy were attacked and her church was attacked while prayers were being said. How prayerful are a scabrous multitude of Maoists, anarchists, and Trotskyites? What a bunch of shit.

    These are the same lunatics who rioted against Trump before, and after the election. Internationally they can be seen around the world throwing molotovs, murdering opponents, attacking the elderly and isolated individuals in gutless frenzies. Bitter, twisted, without humor or honor: they constitute a type.

    Now these hypocrites are holding vigils for the woman who was killed. She becomes a martyr. Sick.

    If this avalanche of trash had been restrained by police there would have been no violence. Were the police under orders to let chaos develop as a pretext for closing the demonstration? It looked that way. Historically, the crapoid Left have always served the interests of the Establishment. They certainly did so on this occasion.

    • ster plaz
      Posted August 14, 2017 at 10:33 am | Permalink

      K.R.: Even more sick and twisted was the tepid response that Trump and Sessions offered. It was as if they were more concerned with their image. I wish they had said exactly what you had said in your post:

      “that dead woman attended an activity designed to violently close down a legal activity. Her colleagues were beating individuals with clubs without regard to whether the victims were being beaten to death in blind frenzies of hate. As is generally the case, the Left as a mob were out of control, in a display of mass psychosis. No matter what spin the Left and their zealous backers in the mass media put on it, the violence was initiated by the Left. That is evident even from the film footage of the Left and the mass media. The Left came with clubs, a few of the Right with shields, indicating a difference of intent.”

      Perfectly said.

      It is clear that the LEFTIST groups, who travel across state lines and communicate via facebook et alia, had come to Charlottesville to disrupt/harangue/threaten this UniteTheRight protest of illegal removal of Confederate statue. And if possible, depending on whether cops are present or indifferent, they will assault those who dissent from LEFTIST orthodoxy; spitting, throwing urine/feces/etc, grabbing signs/flags/etc, outright assaults.

      That statue was part of a land bequeath to the local gov’t for use as a park on the legally agreed stipulation that the R.E. Lee statue be erected and NEVER removed. The land owner sensed the coming political correctness of removing Confederate monuments like statues.

      The LEFTISTs thought they would be able to do all this hooliganism without serious response because for a long time, especially this past year, no one ever gave them a response. This time many on the Right expected LEFTIST hooliganism and wore helmets, body armor, shields. The LEFT got a tiny amount of overdue payback.

      As for the automobile that ran into another vehicle and LEFTIST protestors, notice how fast LEFTISTs with clubs/weapons appeared out of nowhere and began shattering the rear window. Funny. How they just happened to be (according to MSM narrative) hanging around with clubs/weapons. Clearly, the LEFTISTs were there to commit mayhem.

      • Jaego
        Posted August 16, 2017 at 12:37 am | Permalink

        Yes, yet people think if we dress nice then they won’t attack us. Or that the media won’t call say, “The New Threat: Nazis in suits or Nazis in khakis. It’s ON, folks. Sure maybe tone down the NS stuff for newbies and normies, sometimes. But disavow the Hero, renounce our roots, and traditions for new people? That’s just giving away or Power. The Universe won’t smile on people who take that approach. Let people who are inimical found their own groups.

        We’re not talking our way out of this. That was never in the cards. Don’t trust anyone who says we can.

        • ster plaz
          Posted August 16, 2017 at 10:10 am | Permalink

          Yes, and it needs to start being repeated ad nauseam that if today’s negroes can claim victim status over something (1860s and earlier slavery) that never happened to today’s negroes, and just because it happened to someone who was of the same race ……. well then today’s Whites can claim credit for the civilization/societal/cultural advances of someone (long dead) who was of the White race.

          Time and time again, when today’s Whites say they want a society of only Whites to keep White (western) civilization the way it is (uncorrupted by other races), the political LEFT shouts that today’s Whites are only individuals and cannot have any pride/solidarity/communion with anyone else of the White race who happened to create/produce something of cultural/societal value etc etc etc etc etc.

          Well, same rule will be applied, in reverse, to negroes and other non-Whites.

          Problem is, a lot of Whites go along or silently accept this paradigm or narrative being promulgated.

          Whites need to object to this “supremacist” label. Whites don’t want to live in a culture/society with non-Whites. Hard to be supreme over someone you are living among.

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