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Answering Sargon of Akkad

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Responds to YouTube Skeptic Sargon of Akkad’s eight questions for White Nationalists. The questions are:

  1.  Are Jews Oppressing White People?
  2. Should Interracial Couples be Forced to Separate?
  3. Should the Government Prevent Citizens from Leaving the Country to Preserve the Race?
  4. Should the State Control Education?
  5. Should the State Control the Media?
  6. Should the State Control the Economy?
  7. Do the Decisions of Individual White People Matter to the Alt-Right’s Goals?
  8. Should Women Have a Role in Public Life?

Articles mentioned:

  1. Travis LeBlanc, “The Skeptic War
  2. Greg Johnson, “The Slow Cleanse
  3. Greg Johnson, “Hegemony

 

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22 Comments

  1. NoddingHead
    Posted January 8, 2018 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    No verbal debate yet. Those things favor people who have a high ability to use logical fallacies to their advantage (eg. strawmen, appeal to authority etc.). Doing great writing and speaking in non-combat situations.

    • Lexi
      Posted January 8, 2018 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

      I have long disliked oral, real-time debates. I have never been able to articulate exactly why. You just hit the nail on the head.

  2. Niels Ebbesen
    Posted January 8, 2018 at 3:02 am | Permalink

    Millennial Woes made a great point, if not on the main topic – Namely that having these as podcasts rather than articles enables people to listen to them, while doing other useful things.

    I, for one, did not have to choose between sawing up my Christmas tree and listening to this.

    If it had been an article…

    • Lexi
      Posted January 8, 2018 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

      Audio is great for stay-at-home Moms, too. We have a lot of time to consume pro-White media, even if it’s just while doing the housework. If I’m not mistaken, Wife with a Purpose was redpilled first, then her husband.

  3. Name
    Posted January 7, 2018 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    The Educational System could be overhauled as well. Have you watched John Taylor Gatto’s “The Ultimate History Lesson”, Greg?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8&list=PL463AA90FD04EC7A2

    The Guild system should be considered seriously, specially because it doesn’t only concern education but other aspects of social and economical life.
    But yes, as you and MW quickly spotted: Sargon questions were loaded with weak and blatant assumptions and narratives.

  4. Hugmynd
    Posted January 7, 2018 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    It’s very revealing that Sargon has a Youtube channel which he named rather self-consciously “The Thinkery” after Arisophanes’ Clouds (which I have just begun reading in accompaniment with Greg’s wonderful lectures) in which Socrates has a dark little shed (“The Thoughtery”) where he and his frail, pale-skinned followers languish in their intellectual pursuits. Instead of considering practical problems, they measure the length of fly legs, theorize endlessly, and stare at the ceiling.

    If anyone listened to Sargon’s recent debate with Spencer and Woes it’s almost comic how well he adheres to the parody image of Socrates in Clouds. He inquires endlessly for an airtight definition of “White” in a semi-Socratic line of questioning until he is given an answer that covers 100% of all cases.

    Our response should simply be that we don’t need an answer that covers 100% of all cases, because even if one granted complete tolerance to all edge cases (mixed race, etc) where White nationalist political policies are concerned the resulting societies would still be vastly improved over time. It is saying that because we cannot have the perfect, we are not allowed to pursue the good.

    • Lexi
      Posted January 8, 2018 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

      I wonder if the best approach might be to demand a concession that White nationalism is morally legitimate before even getting into these questions of who is White. In other words, ask whether, if we can produce a perfect definition, would they drop their objection to the ethnostate? If they say no, they’re nitpicking in bad faith rather than stating their true position. If they say yes, then you’ve nearly won the argument. The details can be worked out later.

      That’s what I would do, but then I’m not a public figure that needs to present as agreeable, either.

  5. Per Nordin
    Posted January 7, 2018 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    How about a debate beetween Greg and Sargon about this in a podcast?

    • James Alexander
      Posted January 7, 2018 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

      No, it should be on Andy Warski’s channel. The bigger the audience, the better. Especially given that the majority of his subscribers are not, shall we say, frequenters of Counter-Currents.

      • Seb Durant
        Posted January 9, 2018 at 7:07 am | Permalink

        Absolutely. It appears that Warski is doubling down on providing a platform to the Alt-Right, and his co-host Jean-Francois Gariépy is transparent about his sympathies for our ideas. While Richard Spencer came out on top overall in his debate with Sargon, his confrontational manner and ad hominem attacks are offputting to the types of people we would like to attract, in my opinion, and, to be honest, at times he was sorely lacking in clarity and incisiveness. I spend much of the debate wondering how much better the debate might have gone had it been Greg Johnson or Jared Taylor in his place.

        If anyone reading this has a way of contacting Jean-Francois Gariépy and recommending/introducing him to Greg, I am confident that an appearance on a future edition of Warski Live could be arranged.

        • Lexi
          Posted January 9, 2018 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

          The truth is that Greg has already answered the thrust of Sargon’s and Styx’ objections. It’s been years, and I don’t remember the exact forum. Maybe a Robert Stark interview?

          Non-whites are ethnically cleansing Whites from towns they have lived in for hundreds if not thousands of years as we speak, and for some reason, “no one sheds a tear.” If ethnic cleansing is truly as outrageous as they claim, why is nothing being done about this? Sargon might say that it doesn’t matter because the state is not doing it. Of course, this is silly, because it doesn’t matter who is doing it. You’re being driven out of your home either way. Nor does it help that the culprits will be punished if caught. First, they may not be caught, and second, even if they are, White fathers aren’t going to stick around and hope their daughter isn’t next. Unless the government continues to escalate punishment until further aggressions are deterred, they are effectively letting it happen.

          As for Styx’ point, I think he is incorrect for the same reasons. Whites submit to these indignities, because they know they must. Why would non-Whites not do the same?

  6. Harvey
    Posted January 7, 2018 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Capulet did nothing wrong.

  7. Antony
    Posted January 7, 2018 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    KILROY CAME HERE INSTEAD !

  8. Per Nordin
    Posted January 7, 2018 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Interesting. Sargon’s 8 questions seem to have resulted in several debates and much attention, I found a lot.

    His 8 questions “8 Questions for the Alt Right – Survey”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GRe7M-ed5g

    Richard Spencer seems to have debated with Sargon on the subject: “Richard Spencer, Styx and Sargon Have a Chat – Andy and JF moderate”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiUH-tWHbr8

    Others have also answered Sargon:

    “Mike Enoch on Sargon Of Akkad’s Questions For The Alt Right”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1y1QhDTn6k

    “Response to Sargon of Akkad”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVPvw30sfJ4

    “8 Questions For The Alt Right Answered”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptb7R7OXNDo

    “My response to Sargon’s eight questions for the Alt Right”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XrzbPdfMQg

  9. NoddingHead
    Posted January 6, 2018 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    Knowing real history, it makes me very angry that only the supposed Jewish holocaust is the one that MSM and Hollywood give a shit about.

  10. NoddingHead
    Posted January 6, 2018 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    “Skeptics” are transparent lapdogs for the mainstream and very safe media-approved zeitgeist of today. I envision them enthusiastiacally slaughtering Russian Orthodox priests and other expendable goyim a century ago. Godless zealots don’t have any moral qualms against slaughtering certain people. Any excuse will do. The only exception – Jews. That would be a Holocaust.

  11. NoddingHead
    Posted January 6, 2018 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    “Skeptic” isn’t really skeptical. It is just anti-white and anti-Christian dogma and just means “do what Jews say” in the final analysis.

  12. Green Evening
    Posted January 6, 2018 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    I like Greg’s conviction in the benign use of education as an enculturating transmission of learning, wisdom and virtue. In the homogeneous, self-confident ethno-state, there really would be no need for cranky individualistic projects like home-schooling.

    Millennial Woes has a lot of residual libertarianism on these issues. I respect and admire him greatly, but my instinct is to disagree.

  13. twochairs
    Posted January 6, 2018 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    I loved this. As I love the “Greg Johnson Debates” youtube channel. Spencer may have done well during the Sargon debate, but not well that I wasn’t screaming “talk about the slow cleanse!” “say it took us 50 years to get here, we can spend 50 years getting back!”, “lower your damn heart-rate. Only weak people respect bullies!”

  14. ronehjr
    Posted January 6, 2018 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Woes speaks for a lot us who want you to have more of a presence in the you tube discussions. You are very good at it, and more importantly you present in a way that won’t scare off regular people( I know that ‘normies’ is the most commonly used term by white nationalist types, but like all jargon, I feel it is becoming over used). Thanks for the great work.

  15. NoddingHead
    Posted January 6, 2018 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Damn, that was really good. I think it should be followed up and expanded with a written response, although a simple transcript would be great also.

    The questions were obviously “grandstanding” to libertarian ideology. I noticed Greg didn’t take the bait and didn’t attack “libertarianism” by name but rather “liberal or radical individualism”. Glad he called out Ayn Rand at the end.

    I am not really familiar with the “Skeptic” ideology, other than it is a stand-in word for atheist. It appears to also be promoting libertarianism if not Objecttivism. The list of questions is a giveaway.

    I hope Nehlen will hear the podcast.

    • Captain John Charity Spring MA
      Posted January 7, 2018 at 7:43 am | Permalink

      David Hume the original skeptic argued that logic and reason are the servant of passion.

      The YouTube cult “Skeptocs” following Carl Benjamin (Sargon) are clearly unaware of this when they claim the Ethnostate and Altright are irrational and emotional.

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